[Albion] Bong and Some of Our Fans

Yes Chef · Jan 20, 2019

Mike Small said:
True but has he ever assisted, scored or stopped a certain goal? No. Has he scored Murrays goals? No. Has he scored the winner against Newcastle and assisted one against West Ham (Kayal) completely off his own pressing and crossing? No. Has he scored against Palace (Balogen)? No. Has he scored against Man Utd away and had 4 assists (Gross)? No. Has he scored three and had 2 assists while making an incredible number of blocks and clearences (Duffy)?. No. They contribute in key areas which give us POINTS. They have made the difference. I know it's harder from full back but Bong makes up the numbers. Hes by no means the worse LB in the league but he has and will costs us more points than any of his play will gain. I hope and think he will do well in the cup next week but really want Bernardo back.

Has Bong slept with your missus? Yes.

Winker · Jan 20, 2019

I think part of the problem is the way we set up in defence. When we drop back, the fullbacks come in tighter to the CBs and then our wingers are expected to fall back and replace them, to form a back 6.
This is OK when it happens but if our winger is still up-field and the fullback come in, the opposition winger then has the freedom to roam in the final third and put the crosses etc in.

It's not just Bong who is caught out like this, it happens to them all, even Bruno. It's up to our fullbacks to read the situation as it happens and be ready to defend out wide and not just assume the winger will be there.

portslade seagull · Jan 20, 2019

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Did he also barrack the long departed Harry Wilson?

Sorry mate, you have completely lost me

The little Welsh winger signed from manure early 80s. I think they missed each other by a couple of years. Have to check my programmes.

Beach Hut · Jan 21, 2019

Mike Small said:
True but has he ever assisted, scored or stopped a certain goal? No. Has he scored Murrays goals? No. Has he scored the winner against Newcastle and assisted one against West Ham (Kayal) completely off his own pressing and crossing? No. Has he scored against Palace (Balogen)? No. Has he scored against Man Utd away and had 4 assists (Gross)? No. Has he scored three and had 2 assists while making an incredible number of blocks and clearences (Duffy)?. No. They contribute in key areas which give us POINTS. They have made the difference. I know it's harder from full back but Bong makes up the numbers. Hes by no means the worse LB in the league but he has and will costs us more points than any of his play will gain. I hope and think he will do well in the cup next week but really want Bernardo back.

With out stating the bleeding obvious we are aware of this, the point I made at the start of this thread was the disgraceful behaviour of a few utter morons chanting Bong is shit throughout the game Saturday until it got inevitably kicked off

drew · Jan 21, 2019

Beach Hut said:
With out stating the bleeding obvious we are aware of this, the point I made at the start of this thread was the disgraceful behaviour of a few utter morons chanting Bong is shit throughout the game Saturday until it got inevitably kicked off

I'm certainly no fan of Bong but there is no way I'd condone chanting throughout a game against one of our own players.

BBassic · Jan 21, 2019

Mike Small said:
True but has he ever assisted, scored or stopped a certain goal? No. Has he scored Murrays goals? No. Has he scored the winner against Newcastle and assisted one against West Ham (Kayal) completely off his own pressing and crossing? No. Has he scored against Palace (Balogen)? No. Has he scored against Man Utd away and had 4 assists (Gross)? No. Has he scored three and had 2 assists while making an incredible number of blocks and clearences (Duffy)?. No. They contribute in key areas which give us POINTS. They have made the difference. I know it's harder from full back but Bong makes up the numbers. Hes by no means the worse LB in the league but he has and will costs us more points than any of his play will gain. I hope and think he will do well in the cup next week but really want Bernardo back.

Google is telling me he's assisted six goals in his time here :shrug:

trueblue · Jan 21, 2019

A fair proportion of fans at games these days really don't have any understanding of football. Simple as that.

Weststander · Jan 21, 2019

I don’t see Bong as an exceptional PL full back with barely a fault in his game (who is?), but I’m genuinely surprised at the animosity towards him. It seems unfair and quite spiteful. Fuelled at matches by ********s on the beers, possibly.

GloryDays · Jan 21, 2019

timbha said:
One of the biggest negatives of getting to the PL is the expectations and behaviour of some of our “newer” fans. I wonder what they would have said about Ashley Neal, Mark Farringdon, Richard Tiltman and Stafford Browne, to name a few.

Pathetic isn't it?

I noticed it more and more as we look liked going up from the Championship. Away at Barnsley there was a group of lads that gave Baldock abuse all game. According to them he was a "mug" and "shit" but still went on to score two decent goals. But I think they'd put so much gear up their nose they would probably say anything if it mean making a noise for the sake of it.

Total plebs that think the "footy is their church". Grow up or get lost or, ideally, do both.

Justice · Jan 21, 2019

As much as I love the Albion being surrounded by f.cking moaning morons every week is ruining it for me. I could quite easily deck the prick behind me who has a melt down every time we give the ball away. If we crashed down the leagues again fact they won’t be there so in my book don’t support the club.

timbha · Jan 21, 2019

GloryDays said:
Pathetic isn't it?

I noticed it more and more as we look liked going up from the Championship. Away at Barnsley there was a group of lads that gave Baldock abuse all game. According to them he was a "mug" and "shit" but still went on to score two decent goals. But I think they'd put so much gear up their nose they would probably say anything if it mean making a noise for the sake of it.

Total plebs that think the "footy is their church". Grow up or get lost or, ideally, do both.

Sadly, I think you are right.

Justice · Jan 21, 2019

GloryDays said:
Pathetic isn't it?

I noticed it more and more as we look liked going up from the Championship. Away at Barnsley there was a group of lads that gave Baldock abuse all game. According to them he was a "mug" and "shit" but still went on to score two decent goals. But I think they'd put so much gear up their nose they would probably say anything if it mean making a noise for the sake of it.

Total plebs that think the "footy is their church". Grow up or get lost or, ideally, do both.

I know Chelsea fans that can’t stand the type of fan they have attracted since the money came in. Good lads that don’t go anymore and are praying it all goes tits up.

Stat Brother · Jan 21, 2019

Justice said:
As much as I love the Albion being surrounded by f.cking moaning morons every week is ruining it for me. I could quite easily deck the prick behind me who has a melt down every time we give the ball away. If we crashed down the leagues again fact they won’t be there so in my book don’t support the club.

The Fella behind me has a tendency to scream "f**king hell lino"...

We're in the family stand, every week we tell him to wind it in, every week he sincerely apologises then the cycle begins again, at the next game.

Mellotron · Jan 21, 2019

Something about large group mentality seems to mean you have to have a scapegoat. I don't know why this is but you see it time, and time, and time again.

timbha · Jan 21, 2019

Mellotron said:
Something about large group mentality seems to mean you have to have a scapegoat. I don't know why this is but you see it time, and time, and time again.

There’s a leader (or big mouth) in any group who picks on one player and all the other muppets (who don’t have their own thoughts or opinions) follow suit. Soon the group are trying to “out abuse” the poor victim, thinking it makes them look hard.

Drugs don’t help either

Mellotron · Jan 21, 2019

timbha said:
There’s a leader (or big mouth) in any group who picks on one player and all the other muppets (who don’t have their own thoughts or opinions) follow suit. Soon the group are trying to “out abuse” the poor victim, thinking it makes them look hard.

Drugs don’t help either

I mean in a broader sense also, though. Something that's beyond an agreement of not being a decent player, to actually being to blame for all sorts.

Brighton - Dean Hammond, Ashley Barnes, Sam Baldock, Solly March, Gaetan Bong.

England - Emile Heskey, Owen Hargreaves (earlier games), James Milner, Raheem Sterling.

Even when winning people still have to have someone to hate.

Weststander · Jan 21, 2019

Mellotron said:
I mean in a broader sense also, though. Something that's beyond an agreement of not being a decent player, to actually being to blame for all sorts.

Brighton - Dean Hammond, Ashley Barnes, Sam Baldock, Solly March, Gaetan Bong.

England - Emile Heskey, Owen Hargreaves (earlier games), James Milner, Raheem Sterling.

Even when winning people still have to have someone to hate.

We sat in ESL for a couple of matches about 3 years ago, where a vociferous group detested Hemed with a passion. Apparently he was fat and a shit striker. Ironically, he then scored a vital goal or two in one of the matches. The knobs shut the feck up.

Stat Brother · Jan 21, 2019

Mellotron said:
I mean in a broader sense also, though. Something that's beyond an agreement of not being a decent player, to actually being to blame for all sorts.

Brighton - Dean Hammond, Ashley Barnes, Sam Baldock, Solly March, Gaetan Bong.

England - Emile Heskey, Owen Hargreaves (earlier games), James Milner, Raheem Sterling.

Even when winning people still have to have someone to hate.

Abusing Codnor during a minutes silence wasn't 'our' finest hour.

Jackthelad · Jan 21, 2019

This season for me has been the worst for bad behaviour I've seen for a long time, coin throwing (that hit our own fans), quite a bit of racism, our own fans arguing and being rude barging each other, fans not moving for elderly fans, had some dickhead Tommy Robinson fans singing EDL shite on the train as well.

Nottseagull · Jan 21, 2019

Yes Chef said:
Has Bong slept with your missus? Yes.

Oh, is he straight?

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