What Have BHA FC Fans Got To Complain About....

Psychobilly freakout said:

Well here is my list.

1: Letting Murray go.
2: Losing 3-1 at home to Palace.
3: Losing 2-0 at home to Palace.
4: Poyet pissing us about and possibly costing us promotion.
5: Letting Barnes go and not replacing him, this in my opinion may have cost us a decent chance of promotion.
6: Farting about close season and panic buying players close to dead line day.
7: Not replacing Ulloa with a decent replacement.
9: Boring football.
10: Still no sign of sporks.

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Psychobilly freakout said:

Well here is my list.

1: Letting Murray go.
2: Losing 3-1 at home to Palace.
3: Losing 2-0 at home to Palace.
4: Poyet pissing us about and possibly costing us promotion.
5: Letting Barnes go and not replacing him, this in my opinion may have cost us a decent chance of promotion.
6: Farting about close season and panic buying players close to dead line day.
7: Not replacing Ulloa with a decent replacement.
9: Boring football.
10: Still no sign of sporks.

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B.W. said:

You know that. I know that. But do the 20,000 or so new fans we have acquired know that? This is the problem.

And sometimes sackings are justified...

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Lifelong Supporter said:

Well if the line from the club is 'Premier League Ready' and it invests in management and players which are clearly not premier league ready there is an inconsistency which any self respecting supporter is going to be disappointed with.

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ali jenkins said:

Exactly this. We can all see that we aren't as good as we have been recently but things will not stay like this forever. It is the poor times (and they really aren't that poor at the moment in the grand scheme of things) that make the good times even more sweeter.

Supporting your Football club isn't about enjoying the good times and then losing interest or demanding that Mr X, Y or Z is sacked when we don't win a few games. It is about being there for it all and supporting the team no matter what the result is.

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nwgull said:

#5 - who is this Barnes chap that would've single handedly made the difference between us getting torn a new one by Derby in the playoff semi, and us getting promoted to the Premier League?

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granny weatherwax said:

I popped into Tesco in hounslow the other day. It was like downtown Baghdad. Not that there were so many people in burkas and such like, which there was a huge amount, which doesn't bother me in the slightest, but in the isles, there were boxes of various foodstuffs piled high, not on shelves. In one Isle, I came across a woman sat on the floor begging....I kid you not.

Compared to there, the old co-op was like harrods

With regards to the OP, we are just suffering a post euphoria blues. Doing well in the last few years of withdean, moving to a shiny new stadium and two seasons of playoffs- albeit failures. We lost our best manager for years, lost a pretty decent manager next, and players who we all loved watching at their best, Orlandi, Lopez and ulloa. And have ended up with a manager, who seems a nice chap but he is struggling with a squad that is either not up to it, or doesn't understand what he is trying to do.

Personally I see football now as a social event, to meet up with mates etc., with the football being there in front of you , but not nearly as important as it was when we were real underdogs in the football league. Now we are just another club with a nice stadium bouncing along in the second tier of the football pyramid. We are no longer angry fans, desparate for our the survival of our club, and fans who thought they were the Center of the club, rather than " customers".

I think in some ways it is a shame that Southampton are quoted as a team that we could emulate. They have owners who are prepared to spend huge amounts on players and due to the coaching prowess of their team infrastructure, have been able to bring the players on and develop them into works class players....bale, Walcott, oslade-chamberlain etc. I thought it was telling that sammy lee took one look at us and chose to work with people he didn't know, rather than an old mate. Hopefully all these players we are buying for the development squad will come through, but that will take time. Brighton fans just have to be patient.

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Monkey Man said:

3. Why do stewards stand right in the exit stairwells when several hundred people are trying to get out?

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granny weatherwax said:

I popped into Tesco in hounslow the other day. It was like downtown Baghdad. Not that there were so many people in burkas and such like, which there was a huge amount, which doesn't bother me in the slightest, but in the isles, there were boxes of various foodstuffs piled high, not on shelves. In one Isle, I came across a woman sat on the floor begging....I kid you not.

Compared to there, the old co-op was like harrods

With regards to the OP, we are just suffering a post euphoria blues. Doing well in the last few years of withdean, moving to a shiny new stadium and two seasons of playoffs- albeit failures. We lost our best manager for years, lost a pretty decent manager next, and players who we all loved watching at their best, Orlandi, Lopez and ulloa. And have ended up with a manager, who seems a nice chap but he is struggling with a squad that is either not up to it, or doesn't understand what he is trying to do.

Personally I see football now as a social event, to meet up with mates etc., with the football being there in front of you , but not nearly as important as it was when we were real underdogs in the football league. Now we are just another club with a nice stadium bouncing along in the second tier of the football pyramid. We are no longer angry fans, desparate for our the survival of our club, and fans who thought they were the Center of the club, rather than " customers".

I think in some ways it is a shame that Southampton are quoted as a team that we could emulate. They have owners who are prepared to spend huge amounts on players and due to the coaching prowess of their team infrastructure, have been able to bring the players on and develop them into works class players....bale, Walcott, oslade-chamberlain etc. I thought it was telling that sammy lee took one look at us and chose to work with people he didn't know, rather than an old mate. Hopefully all these players we are buying for the development squad will come through, but that will take time. Brighton fans just have to be patient.

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B.W. said:

So it's the fans fault!? What utter, utter nonsense.

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Player recruitment reached a new low in the summer. Sami's naive tactics have resulted in p1ss-poor defending (full-backs too advanced), and the cutting-edge of a jelly upfront (just what are Sami and the strikers doing to improve their scoring rate?).

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As a result, we are dangerously close to the relegation zone, with very few signs of improvement on the pitch, and a tough fixture list up to Jan.

And you blame the fans, many of which are drifting away, and this trend will continue without major surgery at the top of the club (P45's for Sami and Burke).

Do I need to remind you that NSC is NOT representative of our mainly fickle (like most clubs) fanbase?

Wake up.

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Guy Fawkes said:

No, but the over reaction to events on and off the field is just that, an over reaction. No it isn't. 1 win since Aug.



did it? - how highly rated were the players that are being held as an example of what we had when they first joined us? - The difference was the lack of a weight of expectation from fans and the willingness to give the manager (Gus) time to alter the way we play and for it to cpome to fruition (reaching but failing in the play-offs). The players we signed previously may not have been highly rated, but they delivered. We are more than a third of the way through the season, and only just above the relegation zone. Sami has had plenty of time, and it is clearly not working.

Sami is having to start at a higher level and trying to change what we do for the best (lost count how many times people complained we weren't attacking enough and how boring it was under Gus (and Garcia). I agree, but his changes are just too cavalier for me.

We are not getting turned over and outclassed by other teams, we have rarely conceeded more than 1 goal a game but there is still room for improvement (which should come with time) How much time? We need to give an experienced manager the time to turn things around with the help of the Jan transfer window. He needs to be in by Dec IMHO.

The strikers arn't scoring many goals which would be a disappointment to everyone connected to the club, but it's far too simplistic to lay the blame at the strikers as fans like you do. If they were getting countless chances a game and missing them, then yes, they would deserve a lot of the criticism they are currently getting but they arn't getting the chances to miss. (quality of supply?) Disagree wholeheartedly. It is not simplistic to point out the many chances missed / the failures to get on the end of quality balls into the box. For example, there were several good crosses into the box against Blackburn that Ulloa would have buried. Baldock nowhere to be seen of course.

However Gus went through a similar lean period, and during that part of his reign we had a period during which we failed to even have a shot (on or off target) for several games !! Where was all the criticism being leveled at the recruitment team, etc then? - The difference, no expectation from the fans for the play-offs as a minimum. The playoffs have been the expectation (set by Tony) for each of the previous 2 seasons, and this season, so I disagree again. Gus + recruitment team worked. Recruitment team + Oscar / recruitment team + Sami = shambles. Can you spot the real reason for the difference in transfer windows? It's got nothing to do with fan expectations.

At least we are having a go now, and with time and probably a few new signings, we should climb back up the table to were we should be and not stay near the bottom (our performances have deserved a lot more points than we have for various reasons / factors). I think you are watching games from a fan's, but not a realist's POV.



Few signs of improvement? - we have been playing better the last few games imo. We won against Wigan and took the lead against Blackburn (something we haven't done very often this season) I also think the performances have been better the last few games, but not much better, mainly because Sami has belatedly dumped his ridiculous full-backs as wingers tactic. Few signs of improvement is correct.

There are people who read crap on here about how bad it all is (including your post that i am quoting) and the only bad things are our league position and lack of wins - not our performances! People like you make it out that we are being battered by the opposition and lucky even get a draw (but the truth is we often deserved more than the 1 point) and doesn't reflect on how we are playing. Err. All that matters is results. See above. IMHO our performances have varied between woeful and average. To say that I am talking cr@p, given where we are in the table (and, less importantly, our performances) suggests to me that you are seriously deluded.

People read these types of comment and are put off going (why bother if the football on offer is dull and hard to watch? - which it is not!!) this is why i say fans can influence people and put off others from attending, especially if it isn't cheap to get in. They may not neccessarily read it on here, but others do and the view spreads by word of mouth and the Withdean years were a good demonstration of this principal. I will go whatever, but there are about 20,000 fans who WILL at least consider not turning up if we continue the way we are.

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Monkey Man said:

My list of moans:

1. I find it a bit weird that when you see players from the back, the kit looks like it's all blue.
2. That bloke behind me and his constant running commentary/negativity. There is no escape from it.
3. Why do stewards stand right in the exit stairwells when several hundred people are trying to get out?
4. They seem to have stopped selling Double Deckers.
5. The new-look Albion in the Community badges in the stadium don't look as good as the old ones.
6. Away fans seem really lacklustre this season.
7. Where am I supposed to put my pint when I'm also eating a pie?
8. The lighting behind the American Express Community Stadium sign never seems bright enough.
9. Still haven't seen anyone kick the ball right out of the ground, though Dunk came close.
10. The football's really boring.

Looking forward to seeing all 10 of these points addressed forthwith or I'm watching Eastbourne Borough next season.

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B.W. said:

In response...

The strikers arn't scoring many goals which would be a disappointment to everyone connected to the club, but it's far too simplistic to lay the blame at the strikers as fans like you do. If they were getting countless chances a game and missing them, then yes, they would deserve a lot of the criticism they are currently getting but they arn't getting the chances to miss. (quality of supply?) Disagree wholeheartedly. It is not simplistic to point out the many chances missed / the failures to get on the end of quality balls into the box. For example, there were several good crosses into the box against Blackburn that Ulloa would have buried. Baldock nowhere to be seen of course.

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El Presidente said:

I like shopping in Waitrose, it has pleasant staff, the checkouts are nice and shiny, and you get a free cup of tea with your loyalty card.

For this I'm prepared to pay a small premium on the price for the food.

If, however, the food is a load of old crap that looks as if it wouldn't be acceptable in a prison canteen, I would probably take my custom away, or at the very least, speak to the shop manager, and say, that as a customer, I expect better fare.

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