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New manager for Albion women's team
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Kaiser_Soze
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- Apr 14, 2008
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If you're going down that route, why don't we bin off ANY football club that gets gates on under 1000. Men's and women's.
And lets be honest, nothing is getting forced down your throat. You don't read the page about women's football in the program, you didn't need to get involved in the threat and you don't need to watch the game. You're actively choosing to make it an issue when quite frankly it isn't. If women's football isn't for you then fine. No need to denigrate the sport or the efforts of those trying to raise the profile of it.
I have no views either way, but surely Goldstone is just giving his opinion which is what these forums are all about? If you don't agree fine, but to insinuate he shouldn't voice an opinion is double standards isn't it?
No. He's being a dick.
Kaiser_Soze
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- Apr 14, 2008
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He's most definitely entitled to his opinion. I was just saying that his basic premise of women's football being forced down his throat by the PC brigade is incorrect for the reasons I outlined. He also cited attendance figures in his reasons for women's football not being worthwhile. I countered by making the comparison about men's football with similar figures.
I don't think I said at any point that he shouldn't voice his opinion. There is a difference between saying "I personally don't see the appeal of womens football" and "What's the point of it?"and the implication that it shouldn't exist.
The Merry Prankster
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Oh dear - on many levels.
No, Goldstone doesn't make any valid points.
He believes women's football has no right to exist on three main points - the perceived lack of interest, it only ticks the box of a 'PC Brigade' and his psychedelic, parallel-universe conention that it's only a game for males.
Let's take them one at a time. If he believes it shouldn't exist due to a lack of interest, then nor should powerchair football, blind football, amputee football, reserve matches and polo. If the crowds aren't there then, but his reasoning, they shouldn't be taking place either. In other words, football should only exist for the sake of commerce. Taking that to its logical conclusion, Goldstone is an armchair fan with no concept of what he claims to support - a FOOTBALL club.
Secondly - this mythical 'PC Brigade'. A phrase of no meaning. Since when was it 'politically correct' to allow women to play football? Liking women's football doesn't make you 'politically correct', it makes you a fan of football.
Which leads us to the third point - since when was it actually correct to not allow women to play football? What are the actual physical, societal and egalitarian contexts within which women aren't allowed to play?
I'm not 100% sure whether your post, meanwhile, was made tongue-in-cheek, or whether you were being serious regarding women's roles in society. But I'll leave it there hanging anyway.
1) Wrong on many levels........................What you talking about mister?
2) Of course its tongue in cheek, so many people get so offended by a bit of banter and start banding around you can't say this you can't say that, oh what a sensitive world we live in.
3)PC Brigade does exist its in the urban dictionary and that's good enough for me.
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You're correct and it's a shame. I have watched a couple of the Albion women's games and they are really good and you get to cheer on the Albion. I would go to a lot more if I lived in or near Brighton. It's just not practical for me.
Women's football used to get massive crowds during the being of last century and then FA band women from playing because people preferred to watch them to the men. They only allowed it again 50 years ago and the women today are still try to catch up.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/07/18/football-banned-women-review-fascinating-infuriating-piece-lost/
So if the people who think it's just a men's game should read up on their history. Because it obviously is not.
The Large One
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PC Brigade does exist its in the urban dictionary and that's good enough for me.
Blimey, who wrote that definition? What a prannet.
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severnside gull
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I met a 16yr old recently who has signed her first pro contract with Bordeaux. Different country but it's an international sport.
She will be on good money and something must be paying for it.
That aside, what's with some peoples' antipathy towards Hope Powell?
I know there was a protracted war with the (now) Estonian coach who lost out on the job as England manager and felt his English goalkeeper wife was badly treated and I know that towards the end of her tenure there was a feeling that selection was less than open and the side were underachieving. She seemed to be held in high esteem by the FA but there was a definite undercurrent. Anyone know what it was about exactly?
She will be on good money and something must be paying for it.
That aside, what's with some peoples' antipathy towards Hope Powell?
I know there was a protracted war with the (now) Estonian coach who lost out on the job as England manager and felt his English goalkeeper wife was badly treated and I know that towards the end of her tenure there was a feeling that selection was less than open and the side were underachieving. She seemed to be held in high esteem by the FA but there was a definite undercurrent. Anyone know what it was about exactly?
Actually it's spot on.
Good call, I'm going to try to get along. Maybe Barber should offer 20 loyalty points to anyone attending as an incentive too.
McTavish
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- Nov 5, 2014
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Nice idea but I think that might take "pretendance" to previously uncharted levels...
jamie the seagull
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Sacked in 2013 due to poor team performance.......Morale issues within the team due to her selection process.....4 years to get another job.....
New manager who picked on form takes over and we win the Bronze medal at the WC.
I'll leave it there...
Nooo, 'attending', not buying a ticket......he can stand at the gate and take a register
The Large One
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You can leave it where you want. It means nothing. Meanwhile, she worked for the PFA for four years, so she didn't take 'four years to get another job'.
If you wish to dismiss her career, that's your lookout. As you can see, no-one else shares your prejudices.
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And bang on cue, here comes someone to agree with my assessment.
Mackenzie
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Sounds like she was a real trail blazer but upset the players with the man management side of things. Could be quite a ride for the Albion Ladies.
I'm quite interested to see how this plays out.
I'm quite interested to see how this plays out.