Gary Rowett

Pavilionaire · Mar 14, 2017

Surf's Up said:
Which is his problem because he won't get two years, he'll be lucky to get 6 months if theyre not pushing for promotion in that timescale.

The curse of the Championship manager is ex-Prem players on big money who think they're too good for the Championship. This problem is compounded when, like Norwich, Derby and Forest, you stockpile players in one position so that 3-4 decent players are redundant and turn into bad apples.

hans kraay fan club · Mar 14, 2017

Pavilionaire said:
Rowett and his management team are all ex-Birmingham City players so he had a lot of goodwill from the fans, he 'got' the club and this helped him gain the support of his players..

He is more an 'ex-Derby player' than an ex-Birmingham one, though. Played more seasons / matches there, and central to the team that got Derby promoted to the Premier League.

WATFORD zero · Mar 14, 2017

I would have thought that any manager who had a choice would choose Norwich over Derby. At least at Norwich you would stand a chance :shrug:

Nixonator · Mar 14, 2017

If they don't give him a chance then it will start to become a job that nobody wants. Except Shteve.

I think he'll do well there.

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Mar 14, 2017

I think that's a great job to take.

In Christie, Thorne, Ince, Hughes, Vydra, Bent, Johnson, Anya, Shackell, Olsson, Blackman they have talented players who SHOULD be playoff contenders in this division.

Add a bit of steel to the defensive areas (exactly what Rowett does) then they could be a force next year.

Behind Enemy Lines · Mar 14, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I think that's a great job to take.

In Christie, Thorne, Ince, Hughes, Vydra, Bent, Johnson, Anya, Shackell, Olsson, Blackman they have talented players who SHOULD be playoff contenders in this division.

Add a bit of steel to the defensive areas (exactly what Rowett does) then they could be a force next year.

They seem to have fallen apart at the back without Richard Keogh. Big player for them.

clarkey · Mar 14, 2017

"Gary is being tasked with, and has the full responsibility for, leading our redevelopment programme," said Derby County Chairman Mel Morris.

Anyone else wondering what on earth that means?

Blackadder · Mar 14, 2017

clarkey said:
"Gary is being tasked with, and has the full responsibility for, leading our redevelopment programme," said Derby County Chairman Mel Morris.

Anyone else wondering what on earth that means?

He carries the can when they fail to be promoted.

Morris happy to take the plaudits, should they succeed.

MattBackHome · Mar 14, 2017

Dorset Seagull said:
For those interested here is an excellent analysis of his tactical approach which may not be immediately successful at Derby.
http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/03/10/tactical-philosophy-gary-rowett/

Thanks for that - what a fantastic website. Never seen it before but that kind of stuff is right up my alley. :thumbsup:

BensGrandad · Mar 14, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I think that's a great job to take.

In Christie, Thorne, Ince, Hughes, Vydra, Bent, Johnson, Anya, Shackell, Olsson, Blackman they have talented players who SHOULD be playoff contenders in this division.

Add a bit of steel to the defensive areas (exactly what Rowett does) then they could be a force next year.

We need them to improve defensively very quick this season not next.

Triggaaar · Mar 14, 2017

clarkey said:
"Gary is being tasked with, and has the full responsibility for, leading our redevelopment programme," said Derby County Chairman Mel Morris.

So he's not the new manager then?

Finchley Seagull · Mar 14, 2017

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
I think that's a great job to take.

In Christie, Thorne, Ince, Hughes, Vydra, Bent, Johnson, Anya, Shackell, Olsson, Blackman they have talented players who SHOULD be playoff contenders in this division.

Add a bit of steel to the defensive areas (exactly what Rowett does) then they could be a force next year.

Looking at the team that played Friday, even without a few of the above, I was shocked at how awful they were. If you look at their record, they've struggled to score goals all season, which is ridiculous with the attacking players they've got. They have so many options that they could afford to loan out Chris Martin at the start of the season and Andreas Weimann in January and players like Anya, who did a decent job in the Premier League for Watford last season, aren't in the first team.

Rowett has a big job to do but I agree it is a great squad he's taken over. If he can get everyone working together, we've seen what they can do when they won eight in a row earlier in the season under McClaren. They came fifth last season and arguably have a stronger squad now having only lost Hendricks and Martin and signed a number of players.

Motogull · Mar 14, 2017

They got him in pretty quickly. Looks like they are a bit more savvy than Norwich in this respect. So maybe the spunktrumpet wil eventually become Norwich's manager after all. Ha ha.

lizard · Mar 14, 2017

Behind Enemy Lines said:
His sacking at Birmingham is the worse managerial decision of the season.

I dunno, I mean Zola has been world class since his appointment, clearly a massive upgrade, come on, it's Zola innit. :jester:

Pavilionaire · Mar 14, 2017

Saturday 8th April 2017 - Oh look! It's Birmingham City vs Derby County...

clarkey · Mar 14, 2017

Blackadder said:
He carries the can when they fail to be promoted.

Morris happy to take the plaudits, should they succeed.

Ah no, his responsibility is not for ensuring promotion, but redevelopment. Try and quantify that.

BensGrandad · Mar 14, 2017

clarkey said:
Ah no, his responsibility is not for ensuring promotion, but redevelopment. Try and quantify that.

Isnt the Chairman saying he doesnt just want promotion as he wants promotion and then be able to maintain the level and improve in the Premier and not be a yo yo club. This is the task given to Gary Rowett.

hans kraay fan club · Mar 14, 2017

Behind Enemy Lines said:
They seem to have fallen apart at the back without Richard Keogh. Big player for them.

Keogh is available.

He is in the Ireland squad for the coming week: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39255460

Blackadder · Mar 14, 2017

clarkey said:
Ah no, his responsibility is not for ensuring promotion, but redevelopment. Try and quantify that.

I dunno. Whatever happens, one of them will carry the can. My money is on....

clarkey · Mar 14, 2017

BensGrandad said:
Isnt the Chairman saying he doesnt just want promotion as he wants promotion and then be able to maintain the level and improve in the Premier and not be a yo yo club. This is the task given to Gary Rowett.

It's meaningless management speak really though isn't it? The only redevelopment that needs to be done is put them back where they were 2/3+ years ago before Morris started meddling in all their affairs.

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