JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
I explained this to you before ... Sovereignty can be surrendered/pooled, see every EU treaty.
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
- Start date
I explained this to you before ... Sovereignty can be surrendered/pooled, see every EU treaty.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Michael Fallon had already vetoed that. We are sovereign and we have the power of veto.
nicko31
Well-known member
Lots to do....
Rees-Mogg: “we’re a slave state”
Boris Johnson: “As bad as it could possibly get
Keir Starmer: “Shambolic, we’ll vote against it”
DUP bloke: “This will lead to break up of the UK”
Rees-Mogg: “we’re a slave state”
Boris Johnson: “As bad as it could possibly get
Keir Starmer: “Shambolic, we’ll vote against it”
DUP bloke: “This will lead to break up of the UK”
nicko31
Well-known member
Nice summary of the Village Idiots in the Tory party.....
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/...xit-supporters-1.3695347#.W-qBdSX5fPI.twitter
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/...xit-supporters-1.3695347#.W-qBdSX5fPI.twitter
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
One country vetoing the plans of other countries to forge ahead with a plan they wanted as an example of sovereignty ... brilliant
JRM basically admitting he lied and we had sovereignty all the time
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
One country vetoing the plans of other countries to forge ahead with a plan they wanted as an example of sovereignty ... brilliant
It worked with the euro. We vetoed that too. We have sovereignty.
Raleigh Chopper
New member
The turd has been squeezed out from the rectum that is Theresa May.
It is in the pan, festering and the cistern is full.
The chain is about to be pulled, but the flush is busted.
Who is going to mend it and flush this country down the sewer.
Arsewipe Boris probably.
It is in the pan, festering and the cistern is full.
The chain is about to be pulled, but the flush is busted.
Who is going to mend it and flush this country down the sewer.
Arsewipe Boris probably.
Hastings gull
Well-known member
- Nov 23, 2013
- 4,635
But as I understand it, equipment over many counties is not standardised, and I doubt that many countries will think of anything other than their own armament industry. And, furthermore, who will coordinate an EU Army's deployment, because you can bet your life that their will be powers of veto, when an individual government doesn't like the mission. Would the Spanish government, for example, be happy if the British asked for EU support, should the Argentinians again try their luck at the Falklands. Yes, this conflict would be thousands of miles away, but an attack on one is a call to others to action, surely. Or would we be happy, if the Spanish asked for EU military action to put down a rebellion in Catalonia? Far from being coherent, as you assume, it will become an unwieldy force that, I strongly suspect, will end up shying away from any decisive action due to the politicians refusal to take the flack.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
And 27 other countries can veto what we view to be in our best national interest .. and there are numerous areas where we don't have a veto .. and your favourite (supposedly non EU) organisation the ECJ has primacy over UK law in many areas. Politicians have been continually pooling/surrendering sovereignty to the EC/EU for decades .. anyone pretending otherwise is either woefully misinformed or being deceitful.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Have you heard of an organisation called NATO?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Grayling saying he is studying the text of the deal, he finds it hard to study the Beano
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Good, then you know an EU army would not mean a larger and more coherent armed force with a greater set of skills, equipment and ability than we have now. Just another expensive doomed to failure vanity project for the EU superstate crew ... thank goodness we are leaving.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The Brexit MPs will know all about being deceitful.
pastafarian
Well-known member
Fairly well agreed now that an EU army is pretty much inevitable given the foundations of The Defence Union have been formed with The Permanent Structured Cooperation (PESCO) pact, even though us Denmark and Malta opted out..........its just a matter of when.
What did Juncker call it, the sleeping beauty of Lisbon? ?..........frightening.
pastafarian
Well-known member
Oh come on, as if anyone on here is going to admit being one of them..........
nicko31
Well-known member
We're not at a People's Vote yet, bit early for project fear isn't it?
This is a great slap down outlining farage’s hypocrisy. Not wanting links with Germany for U.K. but applying for passports for your kids from erm....Germany. . https://twitter.com/goonerman10/status/1062420086819119106?s=21
Baldseagull
Well-known member
If it had been surrendered, it could not be taken back, so pooled is the more accurate term, if you are unsure of which is most appropriate.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
DUP say NO so where does that leave Theresa 