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If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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:lolol::lolol::lolol::lolol::lolol:

Do you have any notion of how many meetings there have been on GDPR? How many thousands of suggested amendments from IT companies (as well as lawyers). I've been writing about GDPR for five years and spoken to dozens of IT specialists who have been closely involved from the start.

The idea that this is something proposed out of the blue by bureaucrats with no thought of the consequences is absolutely crazy.

I know two companies that have only been looking at this in the last couple of weeks. You must be working with large employers who have the money to spend on consultants. I bet there are millions of small businesses unaware of what actually GDPR is.
 


Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Very poor couple of days for Brexit.
No further negotiations since March, Nicky Morgan and her crew sticking the knife in, Boris denying everything, the cabinet split into 2 to try and sort it out, Gove not knowing what the hell is happening.
No sign of May anywhere, and all the time we have remainer PM and Chancellor it won't change.
They are hiding behind the curtains sniggering.
Farce on GMB this morning except the great idea that May should step aside from it all, let Boris, Gove and Farage do it, if they are successful the well done, if it's a total failure then they must be held accountable.
If only David Cameron wasn't born, what an utter w*****r that man is.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,264
It is a bit OTT for you have to be sensible about it, is the ICO really going to go after a group after some Allotment Association?

the chairman of the Allotment Association might like to take the risk the ICO wont come... but one little disagreement, a complaint is made, they're in poo. meanwhile consequences like Facebook you probably refering to will carry on, because people consent to sharing their information.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Very poor couple of days for Brexit.
No further negotiations since March, Nicky Morgan and her crew sticking the knife in, Boris denying everything, the cabinet split into 2 to try and sort it out, Gove not knowing what the hell is happening.
No sign of May anywhere, and all the time we have remainer PM and Chancellor it won't change.
They are hiding behind the curtains sniggering.
Farce on GMB this morning except the great idea that May should step aside from it all, let Boris, Gove and Farage do it, if they are successful the well done, if it's a total failure then they must be held accountable.
If only David Cameron wasn't born, what an utter w*****r that man is.

On a thread which is as polarised as can be imagined, I really think that your final sentence might be the one thing that has a chance of uniting everyone.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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The Fatherland
I bet there are millions of small businesses unaware of what actually GDPR is.

As a business, you have an obligation to keep up with current and new legislation.
 


Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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Plymouth
As a business, you have an obligation to keep up with current and new legislation.

One man band here, I hold customers details.
Tried to ignore it but better safe than sorry.
Downloaded a free template for my website which can be altered to suit my little business.
Job done.
I think.
Many people like me and small business will either ignore it or don't know anything about it, at least that is what everyone I have spoken to so far have said, not one has even thought about it.
Beware of people selling stuff and offering courses etc.
I will look into it more deeply but I think I am ok with what I have done.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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They always have done. Most small businesses have probably ignored it up to now. Blame it on Brexit though

I wasn’t blaming in Brexit, it’s more lazy businesses blaming the EU. Given the antiquated business processes which have been aired on this thread I am happy these laws are being brought in to protect my personal information and identity in the modern world. I dare say it might do them some good to operate in a more efficient manner as well.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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One man band here, I hold customers details.
Tried to ignore it but better safe than sorry.
Downloaded a free template for my website which can be altered to suit my little business.
Job done.
I think.
Many people like me and small business will either ignore it or don't know anything about it, at least that is what everyone I have spoken to so far have said, not one has even thought about it.
Beware of people selling stuff and offering courses etc.
I will look into it more deeply but I think I am ok with what I have done.

Quite. I think most wont have any problems with it. And those which do probably need a kick up the arse to being them into the modern world.
 


nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
17,522
Gods country fortnightly
With all the row over the Irish border, Scotland and Brexit has all gone quiet lately. A new front line emerges on Brexit, and another threat to the existence of the UK

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-44113864

A ratification vote needs to have a majority vote in the majority of UK nations, ie 3 out of 4. Its what Cameron should have done in the first place
 




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Quite. I think most wont have any problems with it. And those which do probably need a kick up the arse to being them into the modern world.

Like I have said before, none of this will actually makes anyones data safe, people will still unwittingly download spyware and viruses, sites and database will still get hacked. Who makes money from this?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Like I have said before, none of this will actually makes anyones data safe, people will still unwittingly download spyware and viruses, sites and database will still get hacked. Who makes money from this?

It will make data safer, and it also legislates for disclosure of breaches of security which is important.

Who makes money from this? Good question. One very obvious answer is businesses, like [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION], which seemingly have woeful and antiquated data storage which he struggles to search (although he did contradict this). The imposition of this legislation will probably make him more efficient at the very least. Win win for business and the public. If Britain is to strike trade deals with the world it will need modern businesses to do this.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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The legislation is a good thing if it brings outdated companies up to date. Another example of whining about the EU actually trying to improve something and being met with the typical Brexiteer attitude of "oh bloody hell, do you know how much effort that is gonna take". Not very good is it.

As an aside, what is that Larus's problem? Is it a second account reserved for abuse? It's very odd.
 




Gritt23

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Jul 7, 2003
14,902
Meopham, Kent.
Another example of whining about the EU actually trying to improve something and being met with the typical Brexiteer attitude of "oh bloody hell, do you know how much effort that is gonna take".

SWEEPING STATEMENT KLAXON.

Who is this mythical "typical Brexiteer"? It's not me. I voted for Brexit and would again tomorrow if I had my time over again. I'm also the DPO at work tasked with overseeing our compliance with GDPR. That's not job creation, it's and added task to my already overloaded desk. But GDPR looks like a good thing to me, not just about protecting data, but giving individuals more rights over their data. There will be teething problems, but that's all part of progress I'm afraid, it's never completely smooth. Certainly no sign of me uttering "oh bloody hell .... etc".

All left are not looney left, all Tories are not right wing extremists, not all Brexiteers hate everything about Europe and not all remainers are banging on about a second referendum, I know it's easy to just label people in this way, but it really doesn't make sense.
 


The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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SWEEPING STATEMENT KLAXON.

Who is this mythical "typical Brexiteer"? It's not me. I voted for Brexit and would again tomorrow if I had my time over again. I'm also the DPO at work tasked with overseeing our compliance with GDPR. That's not job creation, it's and added task to my already overloaded desk. But GDPR looks like a good thing to me, not just about protecting data, but giving individuals more rights over their data. There will be teething problems, but that's all part of progress I'm afraid, it's never completely smooth. Certainly no sign of me uttering "oh bloody hell .... etc".

All left are not looney left, all Tories are not right wing extremists, not all Brexiteers hate everything about Europe and not all remainers are banging on about a second referendum, I know it's easy to just label people in this way, but it really doesn't make sense.

Good for you,you're not a typical brexiteer,
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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It will make data safer, and it also legislates for disclosure of breaches of security which is important.

Who makes money from this? Good question. One very obvious answer is businesses, like [MENTION=1365]Westdene Seagull[/MENTION], which seemingly have woeful and antiquated data storage which he struggles to search (although he did contradict this). The imposition of this legislation will probably make him more efficient at the very least. Win win for business and the public. If Britain is to strike trade deals with the world it will need modern businesses to do this.

And as per usual you choose to be very selective. If you read back I said GDPR was good in principle.

You also fail to understand that thousands of companies across Europe use PDF / scanning as a data retention - and it will also be the case in your beloved Germany. That includes governments. Now I'll ask you AGAIN - because you've purposely avoided the question - how can companies carry out a search of the internal data of thousands of PDFs to search for one specific piece of data ?

The company I work for is highly successful - millionaire owners who started it from scratch, dozens of awards including placings in the fastest growing Sussex businesses awards and the Times Top Tech companies. It employs dozens of highly experienced IT engineers and we're finding GDPR a challenge. We have over 10,000 companies as customers and many are also finding GDPR a challenge. Yet somehow you and your lawyer mate can solve GDPR implementation in a few posts !! It suggests you both know fvck all about how to implement it.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,323
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SWEEPING STATEMENT KLAXON.

Who is this mythical "typical Brexiteer"? It's not me. I voted for Brexit and would again tomorrow if I had my time over again. I'm also the DPO at work tasked with overseeing our compliance with GDPR. That's not job creation, it's and added task to my already overloaded desk. But GDPR looks like a good thing to me, not just about protecting data, but giving individuals more rights over their data. There will be teething problems, but that's all part of progress I'm afraid, it's never completely smooth. Certainly no sign of me uttering "oh bloody hell .... etc".

All left are not looney left, all Tories are not right wing extremists, not all Brexiteers hate everything about Europe and not all remainers are banging on about a second referendum, I know it's easy to just label people in this way, but it really doesn't make sense.

I voted for Brexit too and I agree with this.

GDPR is an example of the EU acting as a force for good - something that's not always the case.

It's going to give a lot more protection to millions of citizens. I do wonder about the motives of people who disagree with this, why are they against citizens having their personal data protected?
 




portslade seagull

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Jul 19, 2003
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portslade
SWEEPING STATEMENT KLAXON.

Who is this mythical "typical Brexiteer"? It's not me. I voted for Brexit and would again tomorrow if I had my time over again. I'm also the DPO at work tasked with overseeing our compliance with GDPR. That's not job creation, it's and added task to my already overloaded desk. But GDPR looks like a good thing to me, not just about protecting data, but giving individuals more rights over their data. There will be teething problems, but that's all part of progress I'm afraid, it's never completely smooth. Certainly no sign of me uttering "oh bloody hell .... etc".

All left are not looney left, all Tories are not right wing extremists, not all Brexiteers hate everything about Europe and not all remainers are banging on about a second referendum, I know it's easy to just label people in this way, but it really doesn't make sense.

All the remainers I speak to just want to get out now and do not want a 2nd vote. They are looking for it to either prove a failure over time or succeed.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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I voted for Brexit too and I agree with this.

GDPR is an example of the EU acting as a force for good - something that's not always the case.

It's going to give a lot more protection to millions of citizens. I do wonder about the motives of people who disagree with this, why are they against citizens having their personal data protected?

I've not seen anyone disagree with it ? I'm questioning the implementation not the motives. Another good EU regulation is the mobile roaming one. I'm not against all EU regualtions.
 



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