Bold Seagull
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Agreed, quality not quantity is the order of business.
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[Albion] Less Hectic Not Busy
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Agreed, quality not quantity is the order of business.
sydney
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It's such a bizarre argument.
"We need more goals from central midfield - so let's break up the partnership that was heavily responsible for not conceding goals".
All the while ignoring the fact only Murray has scored from the centre forward position.
While Dunk and Duffy have had the ball laser guided to the middle of their foreheads at over 80% of all corners taken.
"We need more goals from central midfield - so let's break up the partnership that was heavily responsible for not conceding goals".
All the while ignoring the fact only Murray has scored from the centre forward position.
While Dunk and Duffy have had the ball laser guided to the middle of their foreheads at over 80% of all corners taken.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
I'm pretty sure I didn't think that.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
The only way we could accommodate another midfielder would be to only play 1 winger at a time, but giving them licence to operate on either side, with 3 behind Gross and the striker.
As our 'popular' Spurs fan favours that disjointed approach, I think we can safely say:-
'That's horseshittery of the finest order'.
Kalimantan Gull
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If you offered us Pep Guardiola....?
Is it impossible for us to outgrow CH...?
Is it possible to say these things and not be treated as a Hughton-outer...?
Kalimantan Gull
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Kalimantan Gull
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Billy the Fish
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Stoke, Southampton, WBA, Swansea, West Ham have all demonstrated this season the depth of the proven manager pool. The pool isn't a pool at all, it's a puddle of cockroach infested shitpiss.
I'd say that it is impossible for us to outgrow CH. Any equal of CH who becomes available will be snapped up by a bigger club than us. We'll be in the same position as Watford taking risks on managers from Spain or Italy.
Bob!
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We did have Izzy Brown as Gross' cover whilst he was here.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
As our 'popular' Spurs fan favours that disjointed approach, I think we can safely say:-
'That's horseshittery of the finest order'.
Lol.
Out attacking efforts often rely upon width and pace in these positions. In games where we don't effectively engage the wingers or full backs we get 'stuck' and under pressure, which is most apparent away from home.
I think that at times, IF we had pace or something different centrally we could play a single winger (away from home) and offer 2 threats going forward. I would mean the winger being capable to switching, which they all have done at times.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Yes, he was very unlucky with injuries. Ideally we would have had the following players for the midfield berths.
Gross, Brown, Propper, Stephens, Kayal and Sidwell.
Sidwell got a long term injury and was out of the picture for almost the entire season.
Brown got injured after about 17 minutes and never really got back in the frame before another long term injury.
Which left us with 4 to cover 3 positions. We need to replace Brown and Sidwell for 18/19.
For me the problem comes where we don't effectively engage the wingers or full backs, and Gross becomes marked out of the game.
He doesn't get the yard of space because nobody is pressing either or ideally both fullbacks.
This happens so often it has to come direct from the manager.
I just can't see a very different home v away attacking set up.
I fully expect next season to be more of the same, but with targeted away matches where the team is encouraged to play more like they do at home.
Nixonator
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Spot on.
Our sitting midfielders don't score because they rarely get into positions to score. It's true that they probably could and maybe should have had a couple of goals between them through chances, but nothing more. This isn't a limitation of Stephens and Propper, both are quite capable, but how our manager sets us up to play. You could stick an in-his-prime Lampard in place of one of them, but if he's following the manager's instructions he won't score many. We do have a rather good midfielder in an advanced position who scores and assists a fair bit though...
If we are analysing our scoring metric as a team throughout the season, the biggest concern for me is our missed opportunities at set pieces, particularly from our centre halves.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
But surely in that scenario having a little more guile or pace or even numbers in the middle might make all the difference.
To be honest I think I agree with you assessment of how next season will pan out in terms of tactics - but it would be nice to have the personnel to try a different approach at times, or to change a game.
Is the correct answer, with the exception of one thing.
Stephens isn't capable of scoring, with the exception of an anomaly season, DS is a 2 goals a season player.
One year 50% of his goals came from an overhead kick that was played below sea level.
As has happened with March and Knockaert DS has fallen into the expectations trap where for some unknown reason posters on NSC assume he is better than he is and are then outraged when he doesn't live up to their inflated expectations.
Yeah we're definitely talking around similar ideals, but as with the others your last line makes me wonder.
What you're talking about don't appear to be CH's strongest attributes.
Nixonator
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One year 50% of his goals came from an overhead kick that was played below sea level.
Not correct surely, Stephens scored in some of the most important games in that season.
From memory Burnley and Boro both at the back post.