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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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The Clamp

Well-known member
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Jan 11, 2016
24,521
West is BEST
I will. Thank You.
Glad to see that one of the 24/7's is on nice and early and warming up for another day of bile and venom.

I've not been on here for days. I'm on a night shift and killing time. Thank you for your interest.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,561
The Fatherland
I will.
Glad to see that one of the 24/7's is on the thread nice and early, just warming up for another day of bile and venom.

Bile and venom.... [MENTION=33848]The Clamp[/MENTION].....do behave.
 


D

Deleted member 22389

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I will. Thank You.
Glad to see that one of the 24/7's is on nice and early and warming up for another day of bile and venom.

Just waiting for the next news article that might contain the word Brexit, then twist that article to tell us all the country is collapsing, we are at the cliff edge, that nobody in Europe like us anymore and so on.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,310
Sincere apologies for drifting away from the banal, immature and ignorant banter that we normally read on here from certain individuals who have become totally obsessed with spending 24/7 on this thread, heaping bile and venom on each other, whilst showing the sort of sneering, self-righteous pomposity that does none of them any credit.
I just thought I would try and analyse what is actually happening in the market place. Nothing very clever, just observation. It was in response to a post that suggested we are in economic meltdown. It was merely an attempt to consider that we are already in an economy of great change, Brexit or not. Online is here to stay and specialists will not survive in retail shops.
( Let the backbiting continue )

please dont apologise, it was the most worthwhile comment on this thread in days, and i thought an argument about real shops vs online might be more interesting :cheers:
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Do you want the good news or the bad news? Brexit will mean fewer EU citizens. That is already happening.

An estimated 220,000 citizens from other EU countries immigrated to the UK in the year to September 2017, and about 130,000 emigrated abroad. So EU ‘net migration’ was around 90,000—the lowest level recorded since 2012.

Hurray I hear some of the regular baiters on here shouting. But wait... Brexit will not have any effect on non EU immigration.

Estimated non-EU net migration, meanwhile, is 205,000 a year—the highest level recorded since 2011. It has been almost consistently higher than EU migration for decades.



The majority of citizens from other EU countries say they come with a definite job lined up—the latest figures show this proportion to be 47%, which is high by historical standards. Others usually come looking for work, to study or to join family members in the UK.
EU immigrants are more likely to come to the UK with a definite job now than was the case a year ago, and they’re less likely to come looking for work.


That contrasts with non-EU immigrants, who mainly say they come to study.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/eu-migration-and-uk/
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Just waiting for the next news article that might contain the word Brexit, then twist that article to tell us all the country is collapsing, we are at the cliff edge, that nobody in Europe like us anymore and so on.

You can always rely on the Grauniad now the BBC have banned the use of despite!:lolol:

despite brexit.png
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Do you want the good news or the bad news? Brexit will mean fewer EU citizens. That is already happening.

An estimated 220,000 citizens from other EU countries immigrated to the UK in the year to September 2017, and about 130,000 emigrated abroad. So EU ‘net migration’ was around 90,000—the lowest level recorded since 2012.

Hurray I hear some of the regular baiters on here shouting. But wait... Brexit will not have any effect on non EU immigration.

Estimated non-EU net migration, meanwhile, is 205,000 a year—the highest level recorded since 2011. It has been almost consistently higher than EU migration for decades.



The majority of citizens from other EU countries say they come with a definite job lined up—the latest figures show this proportion to be 47%, which is high by historical standards. Others usually come looking for work, to study or to join family members in the UK.
EU immigrants are more likely to come to the UK with a definite job now than was the case a year ago, and they’re less likely to come looking for work.


That contrasts with non-EU immigrants, who mainly say they come to study.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/eu-migration-and-uk/

An extra 90,000 is never welcome,no matter where they are from, with the added pressure on the NHS,housing,transport etc.,if no effort is made towards relief.Why do you think so many people want numbers reduced?
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
An extra 90,000 is never welcome,no matter where they are from, with the added pressure on the NHS,housing,transport etc.,if no effort is made towards relief.Why do you think so many people want numbers reduced?

Ah the classic reply. I knew you wouldn't let me down. Added pressure on the NHS etc etc. They are more likely to be working in the NHS than causing pressure on it.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Ah the classic reply. I knew you wouldn't let me down. Added pressure on the NHS etc etc. They are more likely to be working in the NHS than causing pressure on it.

Ah,the classic reply.Thought you said all the EU NHS staff were leaving,and no new ones arriving?
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
They really need to get over it, they won

Despite winning there's another demonstration by Fishing For Leave at 6 coastal towns and cities on Sunday - http://ffl.org.uk/mass-transition-protest-nationwide/

Interesting to note this on the itinerary for Hastings:

1730 – Vessels begin to mass towards harbour pier stretching west along shore. Sound horns/fireworks/flares ~ burn EU flags

I wonder what any language students might think about that who witness it as well as Sussex Police.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Despite winning there's another demonstration by Fishing For Leave at 6 coastal towns and cities on Sunday - http://ffl.org.uk/mass-transition-protest-nationwide/

Interesting to note this on the itinerary for Hastings:



I wonder what any language students might think about that who witness it as well as Sussex Police.

Should think any language students would be working in 'Spoons or Costa,and like Sussex Police be totally unaware!
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,019
The arse end of Hangleton
Despite winning there's another demonstration by Fishing For Leave at 6 coastal towns and cities on Sunday - http://ffl.org.uk/mass-transition-protest-nationwide/

Interesting to note this on the itinerary for Hastings:



I wonder what any language students might think about that who witness it as well as Sussex Police.

Why should Sussex Police care about the burning of the EU flag ? Let's see if they come after me :lol:

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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Ah,the classic reply.Thought you said all the EU NHS staff were leaving,and no new ones arriving?

Where did I say all? The numbers were shown to be fewer not all.

I watched Hospital on BBC2 the other night. The ENT consultant is leaving to go to America to join his wife (he's British)
Nottingham hospital trust requires 4 ENT consultants for their area, and there will only be one left when he goes in May. That is 3 vacancies needed for one area.
There was an announcement at the end when the credits were rolling to say a new recruit is in the pipeline and will be starting in September, but that is still only 50% of the requirement needed. People wonder why there are waiting lists.
 


D

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Where did I say all? The numbers were shown to be fewer not all.

I watched Hospital on BBC2 the other night. The ENT consultant is leaving to go to America to join his wife (he's British)
Nottingham hospital trust requires 4 ENT consultants for their area, and there will only be one left when he goes in May. That is 3 vacancies needed for one area.
There was an announcement at the end when the credits were rolling to say a new recruit is in the pipeline and will be starting in September, but that is still only 50% of the requirement needed. People wonder why there are waiting lists.

The population of this country must have increased by about 4-5 million over the last 15 years and our governments both Tory and Labour didn't plan ahead for it.
 


ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,748
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Should think any language students would be working in 'Spoons or Costa,and like Sussex Police be totally unaware!

I was referring to EF, STS etc foreign language students - ie children who come over every spring/summer etc - there's plenty around already.
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The population of this country must have increased by about 4-5 million over the last 15 years and our governments both Tory and Labour didn't plan ahead for it.

We need younger people to come and work here to keep up the contributions in taxes and NI.

As for housing, family splits and high rents are far more to blame than immigrants. I knew of two separate people who had two three bedroomed houses to themselves.
There is a large plot of land near me which has been sold for development with planning permission. That was over a year ago, and nothing has been done to it. The price of land is rising all the time, so it is an investment to sit on plots of land, without actually doing anything.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,019
The arse end of Hangleton
Same reason they'd care if LGBT flag was burned for example - it could be classed as a hate crime.

The EU is a political organisation - it's hardly a hate crime to burn it's flag. It would be no different to burning a poster with the Tory party logo on it. An LGBT flag would be an entirely different matter and rightly so. The police would be rather pathetic to get involved with someone burning an EU flag.
 


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