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General Election 2017
- Thread starter Giraffe
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
I'm sure you are. They are lucky that the alternative option is a UK loathing, terrorist sympathising, anti-democratic far left clique is the only alternative government. Not a great choice but I have some self respect
franks brother
Well-known member
The cynical audacity of telling underpaid nurses on food banks that there's no money tree, whilst spending £1,000,000,000 of taxpayers money to buy 10 measly parliamentary votes from the most deplorable edge of far right politics, and thus cling onto power. Democracy has seldom been so perverted.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
...and your solution to the current situation is?
So easy to say 'this is crap, that is crap.'
Like when a potential signing or even a song comes up, easy to poo-poo, much harder to improve upon.
Agreed, but she is in a very fragile position so she has guaranteed their votes on all the key issues. I don't think Brexit negotiations are solely down to her thank god.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
I'm sure you are. They are lucky that the alternative option is a UK loathing, terrorist sympathising, anti-democratic far left clique is the only alternative government. Not a great choice but I have some self respect
As opposed to a poor person loathing, terrorist sympathising dependent,anti democratic, ( illegal election costs, illegal election call centres,)in the grip of right wing xenophobes.
Kneon Light
Well-known member
Agreed that is what she has done - but it speaks volumes about the woman that she would spend £1billion cementing her own position rather than spend it on schools, hospitals and police.
I'm sure you are. They are lucky that the alternative option is a UK loathing, terrorist sympathising, anti-democratic far left clique is the only alternative government. Not a great choice but I have some self respect
Pragmatism before principle and all that then. I get ya. It is indeed a tricky line to walk.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Wow, the right/left divide is becoming what Jezza and Macca are after...split the nation and come across as the good guys.
I've WATCHED Borgen you know, I have seen how this works.
I've WATCHED Borgen you know, I have seen how this works.
The Upper Library
New member
- May 23, 2013
- 675
Totally this.
And to answer the "your solution to this is what?" question. simple hold another general election. This government is not going to last the next 2 years . The cost of £150 million to hold another GE is equal to only 1 1/2 DUP votes in parliament.
This situation is entirely down to the self serving politics of the Tory party. What a mess.
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The country won't be united for years now.
Don't think there is a middle ground anymore
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Soooo, we do it all again and another Hung Parliament. Then what?
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Is that good or bad, or should we revert to a Blair type Labour Party? After all, Jezza's determination and resilience was illustrated when they tried to hoof him out.
lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
Then, unless someone can cobble together a coalition, we go again.
It is the drawback in a parliamentary democracy, it ain't perfect, but can you think of something better?
If you rule by plebiscite, you end up with even more division, ie, the Euro referendum
The Upper Library
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- May 23, 2013
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Yes - and if it is a hung parliament then maybe for this period of Brexit this maybe what we need - a true cross party parliament.
The Tory party are at real risk of imploding - Both Brexit and the GE was entirely about their own internal power struggles as well as to cynically grab more power. The electorate smelt a rat - now with grubby deals that are hypocritical and crass, the sense of disconnect with growing numbers of the electorate will I fear cement their downfall
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Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
I don't get it. One has been cobbled together, but not to all tastes.
I don't know the answer, more worryingly I don't think any of the politicians do either- but something does need to happen as we can't carry on down this path - the end game is everyone losing out at the end of Brexit.
I personally think the divide over brexit was calming before the election was called and then it all kicked off again - The terrorist attacks didn't help either.