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This! Forced mourning is a social media thing!
pearl
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totally agree except for last 2 sentences, really not necessary imho
Unless it is for a tragic disaster that impacts on our club & fans (ie Shoreham), I'm all for the annual remembrance (either around remembrance day or last home game of the season).
Too often found myself applauding away then at the end turning and asking someone "what was that for? or who was he?". I think we even had a minutes applause for a fan of one of the opposing teams who had died (can't recall now if it was this season or last).
It is getting a bit out of hand.
Too often found myself applauding away then at the end turning and asking someone "what was that for? or who was he?". I think we even had a minutes applause for a fan of one of the opposing teams who had died (can't recall now if it was this season or last).
It is getting a bit out of hand.
AmexRuislip
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I found this interesting comment:
I have no doubt that what I’m about to say is going to be massively unpopular with some – but I’ve reached the point whereby I have to say this out loud.
I think a minutes applause is a bad idea. I think it smacks of trying to look good without actually doing good and is a reflection of the social media landscape we live in today, where a click is all that is needed to salve the conscience. I’m a father and I will tell you now, if (God forbid) anything tragic like this was to befall me or my family then I absolutely wouldn’t want this at all.
The more we hold a minutes applause for each tragedy, the less it means. Let’s not do this.
That doesn’t mean we should do nothing though. I do think that things like this transcend football rivalry – after all, we’re all human. We should feel empathy to our fellow human beings and want to do what we can to help.
Rather than applauding like badly trained seals, let’s do something constructive. Something as simple as buckets being shaken before the match for a charity like CLIC Sargent, who offer help and support for young people with cancer and their families. It won’t help the family of Jack that much sadly, but what it might do is help other families going through the same thing.
http://www.oftenpartisan.co.uk/archives/15798/minutes-applause.html
I have no doubt that what I’m about to say is going to be massively unpopular with some – but I’ve reached the point whereby I have to say this out loud.
I think a minutes applause is a bad idea. I think it smacks of trying to look good without actually doing good and is a reflection of the social media landscape we live in today, where a click is all that is needed to salve the conscience. I’m a father and I will tell you now, if (God forbid) anything tragic like this was to befall me or my family then I absolutely wouldn’t want this at all.
The more we hold a minutes applause for each tragedy, the less it means. Let’s not do this.
That doesn’t mean we should do nothing though. I do think that things like this transcend football rivalry – after all, we’re all human. We should feel empathy to our fellow human beings and want to do what we can to help.
Rather than applauding like badly trained seals, let’s do something constructive. Something as simple as buckets being shaken before the match for a charity like CLIC Sargent, who offer help and support for young people with cancer and their families. It won’t help the family of Jack that much sadly, but what it might do is help other families going through the same thing.
http://www.oftenpartisan.co.uk/archives/15798/minutes-applause.html
highflyer
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- Jan 21, 2016
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Think it started pre-social media with Princess Diana?
We've never really recovered from that collective madness but i agree social media has accelerated the whole competitive grieving thing.
clippedgull
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Yes, agreed. Princess Diana was the catalyst.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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On balance I think the club have got this about right. Is it really so hard to clap for a minute for someone who has contributed to the Albion?
tinycowboy
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Thanks - I'll try both and see which one gains more traction.
Diego Napier
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- Mar 27, 2010
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Your focus is obviously on the facts rather than [MENTION=3508]fisons[/MENTION] rather wry humour!
"Pass away" was a euphemism that arose
facepalm:!) in 15 century England although it's use dwindled until being resurrectedfacepalm:!) about 40 years ago, probably with strong American influence. "Pass" simply continues the trend of attempting to ameliorate the harshness of "dead".I can't get too worked up about "passed away", unlike "soccer" or "defense" or "can I get" or "take-out" or "gotten" or "normalcy" or, now I'm just getting carried away.
If Liz doesn't shake her sniffles, the PD griefchasers are soon going to look like rank amateurs.
Can't get worked up either way, but does feel almost like the half time birthday announcements now - how many deaths are we going to clap this week...........
A minute's silence for things like Chapacoense is understandable - football family and very significant numbers etc, but individuals who happened to be fans (however uber) is a bit OTT.
A minute's silence for things like Chapacoense is understandable - football family and very significant numbers etc, but individuals who happened to be fans (however uber) is a bit OTT.
Yes, agreed my post was a bit contradictory. IF we're going to have applause for individuals then Tony was a fine example of a deserving recipient. But as you say where do you draw the line? At the very least we need to sharpen up the criteria - although your point about who does and who doesn't deserve it would still be extremely valid. (More abuse for Mr Barber to endure!)
Hence my other (preferred) view that when it comes to individual tributes we scrap the lot and try and follow the Southampton (and Wednesday as well by the sound of it) example of having one set day where we honour everybody.
Mind you I don't know what'll happen when a national football figure (such as Bobby Charlton) dies as we're back to deciding if they're 'worth it' or not ...
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Keith the Kipper
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Could it not be linked to the number of Loyalty Points they have at date of death ?
Sussex Nomad
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I like this [MENTION=11499]simmo[/MENTION], a lot, and agree. Trouble I have is, we respect the likes of Knocky and he respects us for mourning with him. I know it is a case of where do we stop, but where do we? I haven't got a clue. If someone could come up with a definitive answer I'd be there..
How do you tell someone we ain't respecting you?
The Spanish
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Entirely with you on this. Might even go as far as to say perhaps we could all mentally remember those that have been lost, personal or not, over the last 12 months when there is a minutes silence for Armistice Day/Remberence Sunday, military people or not.
its two minutes silence for remembrance sunday, a pedant writes.
Easy 10
Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Kaiser_Soze
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- Apr 14, 2008
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It all got a bit much for me when we played a northern club, I think it was Derby or Birmingham late last year. A 17yr old season ticket holder from the club had been killed in a hit and run or some such incident. Why involve us? If you wish to hold a minutes silence at home then that's your choice. Why go away and ask that club to do it? Wait till your next home game or hold a vigil at the club on any given day of your choosing.
pearl
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you are so right, I'm not going to join in anymore!
So agree. I am nearer the end of life than the beginning. As I have said previously the last thing I would want when I die is my ugly mug on the big screen and you lot having to clap not knowing who the heck I was. It also disrupts watching the football which is why we are there. Remembrance in the appropriate place and time and for me that is not at a football match.
As others have said Diana started this mass hysterical need to be seen expressing sorrow. It's out of hand as are Remembrance Poppies which every person in public life is expected to wear one 2 weeks before Remembrance day itself. My dear old Dad who was at Dunkirk, El Alamein, Monte Cassino and then POW, used to say that he did not want to remember as it was flipping awful and never wanted to inflict on others a mass remembrance.
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