Ched Evans

drew · Apr 21, 2016

studio150 said:
Why given that if the decision is to overturn the conviction the DPP have stated they will seek a retrial. I cant see anyone taking him on until that process has concluded and unless this second trial returns a not guilty verdict.

Possibly because the evidence doesn't definitively clear him. In other overturned cases you could have a situation that someone convicted has a case overturned due to DNA evidence proving their innocence. In this case it could be the evidence is purely throws doubt on what allegedly happened and could still be for a jury to decide if it makes a difference. The appeal judges just might think the evidence may have made a difference to the decision of the jury. Guess we'll find out later.

Herr Tubthumper · Apr 21, 2016

Regardless of a conviction or not, he's a horrible scrote.

bha100 · Apr 21, 2016

Ched Evans has WON his appeal and his conviction quashed. Retrial immediately ordered.

Megazone · Apr 21, 2016

He did look good when he came on for Man city against us........

nwgull · Apr 21, 2016

bha100 said:
Ched Evans has WON his appeal and his conviction quashed. Retrial immediately ordered.

Good to see the CPS using tax payers' money wisely.

darkwolf666 · Apr 21, 2016

nwgull said:
Good to see the CPS using tax payers' money wisely.

So whatever the rights or wrongs of what went on, which non of us know the truth about, you are quite happy to see someone have their career ruined over something they may not have been guilty of?

He might be a scrote, as quoted previously, but he is still allowed the full use of the law and fair trial.

Acker79 · Apr 21, 2016

darkwolf666 said:
So whatever the rights or wrongs of what went on, which non of us know the truth about, you are quite happy to see someone have their career ruined over something they may not have been guilty of?

He might be a scrote, as quoted previously, but he is still allowed the full use of the law and fair trial.

I think you'll find he's being sarcastic, and suggesting it is wrong for the CPS to continue to pursue a case after the appeal because they believe someone they believe raped a woman, and that they believe they have the evidence to secure a conviction against.

Da Man Clay · Apr 21, 2016

Would be amazed if that doesn't end no evidence offered now. Can't see the victim wanting to go through it all again after all these years.

Triggaaar · Apr 21, 2016

bha100 said:
Ched Evans has WON his appeal and his conviction quashed. Retrial immediately ordered.

Bloody hell, here we go again.

nwgull · Apr 21, 2016

darkwolf666 said:
So whatever the rights or wrongs of what went on, which non of us know the truth about, you are quite happy to see someone have their career ruined over something they may not have been guilty of?

He might be a scrote, as quoted previously, but he is still allowed the full use of the law and fair trial.

I was being sarcastic (we need a sarcasm font). It seems a bit pointless to quash a conviction and have the bloke retried when the sentence has already been served. And if the CCRC have found enough evidence to suggest that the original verdict was unsafe, what's the chance that the CPS will find new evidence in the next 2 months to change that to 'beyond reasonable doubt'?

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Apr 21, 2016

And this is why I only ever say "he was convicted for rape" and not "he IS a rapist". If I don't know for sure in my OWN mind, no matter what a jury says, I can't call someone a certain tag for fear of this exact situation.

Back to innocent until proven again.

Triggaaar · Apr 21, 2016

nwgull said:
And if the CCRC have found enough evidence to suggest that the original verdict was unsafe, what's the chance that the CPS will find new evidence in the next 2 months to change that to 'beyond reasonable doubt'?

That's not necessary. They may have found the original verdict unsafe because the jury gave it without the knowledge of some evidence. They could have a retrial with that evidence and their verdict (whatever it might be) would be safe.

rouseytastic · Apr 21, 2016

Da Man Clay said:
Would be amazed if that doesn't end no evidence offered now. Can't see the victim wanting to go through it all again after all these years.

So who is 'the victim' that you mention. IF Evans is innocent and she has lied and made the whole thing up he is the victim. And I think he would be more than happy to 'go through it all again' to prove it

Triggaaar · Apr 21, 2016

rouseytastic said:
So who is 'the victim' that you mention. IF Evans is innocent and she has lied

There is no suggestion she lied. She did not accuse anyone of anything, she said she couldn't remember.

ManOfSussex · Apr 21, 2016

How can he get a 'fair trial' with all the media scrutiny there's been over the last 4 years on this?

Triggaaar · Apr 21, 2016

ManOfSussex said:
How can he get a 'fair trial' with all the media scrutiny there's been over the last 4 years on this?

I expect a lot of people will know between very little and nothing about it.

sparkie · Apr 21, 2016

ManOfSussex said:
How can he get a 'fair trial' with all the media scrutiny there's been over the last 4 years on this?

Plenty of people don't know who he is.

I know of at least 5 or 6 who have never heard of him.

darkwolf666 · Apr 21, 2016

nwgull said:
I was being sarcastic (we need a sarcasm font). It seems a bit pointless to quash a conviction and have the bloke retried when the sentence has already been served. And if the CCRC have found enough evidence to suggest that the original verdict was unsafe, what's the chance that the CPS will find new evidence in the next 2 months to change that to 'beyond reasonable doubt'?

Sorry, missed the sarcasm element - yep a different font, or flashing lights maybe would help the thick like me!!!

As for what is happening, I guess there is a major difference between having a conviction quashed and being proved innocent - another day in court might just provide the answers to prove his innocence (of sorts).

Sh1t sticks, and I can't see many clubs running to employ him without a retrial. No smoke without fire seems to be many people's maxim.

ManOfSussex · Apr 21, 2016

Triggaaar said:
I expect a lot of people will know between very little and nothing about it.

His lawyers may beg to differ.

Da Man Clay · Apr 21, 2016

rouseytastic said:
So who is 'the victim' that you mention. IF Evans is innocent and she has lied and made the whole thing up he is the victim. And I think he would be more than happy to 'go through it all again' to prove it

What a strange view to take. Arguably there are two victims - depending on whether or not he is found guilty on a re-trial. Funnily enough I was talking about the girl who was until about half an hour ago a confirmed rape victim.

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