Away Attendances

RM-Taylor said:

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It's no surprise to see the two so-called 'massive' clubs topping the averages, but there are mitigating circumstances. Leeds play around half their away games within an 80 mile radius (11) and Wednesday aren't far behind (9) which makes travelling cheaper and more convenient.

Compare that with Brighton (only 4 and all over 50 miles away) and Boro (just the 1 and 72 miles away) and it can be argued that proportionally these two clubs have more of a fanatical hardcore away support than the 'sleeping giants'.

Had the game been priced normally how many fans would we have taken?

I think about 3000,I for one had pencilled it in before the cheap tickets were announced.

12000 fans paying full wack would have generated more income than 20000 cheap tickets.
That is not taking into account ST holders who I'm sure feel a bit aggrieved.

I'd like to see that table with a
miles from home ground column added.

ipad1977 said:

It's no surprise to see the two so-called 'massive' clubs topping the averages, but there are mitigating circumstances. Leeds play around half their away games within an 80 mile radius (11) and Wednesday aren't far behind (9) which makes travelling cheaper and more convenient.

Compare that with Brighton (only 4 and all over 50 miles away) and Boro (just the 1 and 72 miles away) and it can be argued that proportionally these two clubs have more of a fanatical hardcore away support than the 'sleeping giants'.

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We have further to travel than 'Boro in overall distances, a whopping 382 miles average return trip.

Posted before, but all the travel distance data for those interested:

Sky Bet Football League Travel League
Total Football League club travel distances in miles for Season 2015/16

Rank Div Rank Club Division Total Average Round Trip 2014/15 % Change
1 1 Carlisle United League 2 11,810 513 10,697 10%
2 2 Plymouth Argyle League 2 11,022 479 11,587 -5%
3 3 Hartlepool United League 2 10,634 462 9,840 8%
4 4 Morecambe League 2 9,759 424 8,601 13%
5 5 Exeter City League 2 9,160 398 9,721 -6%
6 6 Accrington Stanley League 2 9,009 392 7,806 15%
7 1 Brighton & Hove Albion Championship 8,787 382 8,398 5%
8 7 York City League 2 8,784 382 7,984 10%
9 1 Gillingham League 1 8,747 380 8,195 7%
10 2 Cardiff City Championship 8,362 364 8,992 -7%
11 3 Middlesbrough Championship 8,220 357 8,828 -7%
12 2 Southend United League 1 8,185 356 7,972 3%
13 4 Ipswich Town Championship 7,985 347 7,638 5%
14 3 Colchester United League 1 7,916 344 7,556 5%
15 8 Yeovil Town League 2 7,859 342 9,169 -14%
16 4 Millwall League 1 7,565 329 6,345 19%
17 5 Bristol City Championship 7,370 320 7,226 2%
18 9 Newport County League 2 7,318 318 7,549 -3%
19 10 Portsmouth League 2 7,252 315 8,192 -11%
20 6 Charlton Athletic Championship 7,018 305 6,723 4%
21 11 Crawley Town League 2 6,990 304 8,182 -15%
22 5 Swindon Town League 1 6,960 303 6,422 8%
23 7 Reading Championship 6,847 298 6,711 2%
24 8 Burnley Championship 6,767 294 null null
25 9 Hull City Championship 6,662 290 null null
26 12 Bristol Rovers League 2 6,661 290 null null
27 13 Mansfield Town League 2 6,647 289 6,208 7%
28 10 Preston North End Championship 6,543 284 6,157 6%
29 11 Blackburn Rovers Championship 6,468 281 6,990 -7%
30 12 Fulham Championship 6,407 279 6,182 4%
31 14 Dagenham & Redbridge League 2 6,367 277 7,244 -12%
32 15 Cambridge United League 2 6,317 275 6,727 -6%
33 16 Notts County League 2 6,304 274 4,504 40%
34 17 Leyton Orient League 2 6,273 273 6,997 -10%
35 13 Brentford Championship 6,250 272 6,121 2%
36 14 Queens Park Rangers Championship 6,224 271 null null
37 15 Bolton Wanderers Championship 6,196 269 6,693 -7%
38 6 Fleetwood Town League 1 6,064 264 7,090 -14%
39 18 AFC Wimbledon League 2 5,979 260 7,180 -17%
40 7 Blackpool League 1 5,883 256 7,800 -25%
41 16 Leeds United Championship 5,784 251 6,248 -7%
42 19 Stevenage League 2 5,663 246 6,270 -10%
43 17 Huddersfield Town Championship 5,592 243 6,131 -9%
44 20 Wycombe Wanderers League 2 5,586 243 6,250 -11%
45 21 Oxford United League 2 5,582 243 6,014 -7%
46 22 Luton Town League 2 5,521 240 5,996 -8%
47 18 Milton Keynes Dons Championship 5,455 237 5,373 2%
48 23 Barnet League 2 5,429 236 null null
49 24 Northampton Town League 2 5,375 234 5,495 -2%
50 8 Peterborough United League 1 5,322 231 5,347 0%
51 19 Rotherham United Championship 5,192 226 5,631 -8%
52 20 Sheffield Wednesday Championship 5,159 224 5,655 -9%
53 9 Scunthorpe United League 1 5,154 224 5,743 -10%
54 21 Wolverhampton Wanderers Championship 5,149 224 5,541 -7%
55 10 Shrewsbury Town League 1 5,123 223 6,461 -21%
56 22 Birmingham City Championship 4,985 217 5,262 -5%
57 23 Nottingham Forest Championship 4,913 214 5,220 -6%
58 24 Derby County Championship 4,904 213 5,234 -6%
59 11 Bradford City League 1 4,786 208 5,654 -15%
60 12 Rochdale League 1 4,625 201 5,583 -17%
61 13 Wigan Athletic League 1 4,610 200 6,504 -29%
62 14 Coventry City League 1 4,546 198 4,694 -3%
63 15 Bury League 1 4,546 198 7,225 -37%
64 16 Oldham Athletic League 1 4,501 196 5,395 -17%
65 17 Doncaster Rovers League 1 4,373 190 4,963 -12%
66 18 Barnsley League 1 4,347 189 4,972 -13%
67 19 Walsall League 1 4,284 186 4,657 -8%
68 20 Crewe Alexandra League 1 4,210 183 4,973 -15%
69 21 Burton Albion League 1 4,131 180 5,772 -28%
70 22 Port Vale League 1 4,052 176 4,703 -14%
71 23 Chesterfield League 1 3,967 172 4,481 -11%
72 24 Sheffield United League 1 3,966 172 4,613 -14%

PG

the wanderbus said:

I'd like to see that table with a
miles from home ground column added.

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Ok, I've used the FL's season average distance, so this wont be exactly right with 4 games to go, but here's the results:

Club Average Away Average Miles FanMiles
Leeds 2819 251 707569
Wednesday 2386 224 534464
Boro 2327 357 830739
Derby 2212 213 471156
Birmingham 1779 217 386043
Burnley 1630 294 479220
Brighton 1553 382 593246

It shows that 'Boro have the most fan miles (assuming they all travel from Teeside!), followed by Leeds and then Albion.

This officially proves we are a bigger club (in away loyalty terms) than Sheffield Wednesday

PG

Removing the MK Mongs outlier

Peter Grummit said:

Ok, I've used the FL's season average distance, so this wont be exactly right with 4 games to go, but here's the results:

Club Average Away Average Miles FanMiles
Leeds 2819 251 707569
Wednesday 2386 224 534464
Boro 2327 357 830739
Derby 2212 213 471156
Birmingham 1779 217 386043
Burnley 1630 294 479220
Brighton 1553 382 593246

It shows that 'Boro have the most fan miles (assuming they all travel from Teeside!), followed by Leeds and then Albion.

This officially proves we are a bigger club (in away loyalty terms) than Sheffield Wednesday

PG

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Good work PG.

I didn't think it was possible to be a bigger club than Wednesday, they're massive, a sleeping giant as I said.

But they've been sleeping for quite a while now haven't they? A nice long lie in.

8ace said:

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Removing the MK Mongs outlier

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[MENTION=588]8ace[/MENTION] we probably have too much time on our hands.

The only other comment I'd make is that removing the MK Dons 'outlier' would obviously increase the distance travelled for other games, and have an impact on other clubs' average too (eg Leeds).

PG

Brighton Lines said:

Our attendance on Saturday appears to be the largest single away following of a team at any of this year's fixtures

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Not bad having 7th highest average

ipad1977 said:

It's no surprise to see the two so-called 'massive' clubs topping the averages, but there are mitigating circumstances. Leeds play around half their away games within an 80 mile radius (11) and Wednesday aren't far behind (9) which makes travelling cheaper and more convenient.

Compare that with Brighton (only 4 and all over 50 miles away) and Boro (just the 1 and 72 miles away) and it can be argued that proportionally these two clubs have more of a fanatical hardcore away support than the 'sleeping giants'.

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Why are some of fans obsessed with whether clubs are bigger than us?

It's getting a bit sad mate TBH.

worthingseagull123 said:

Why are some of fans obsessed with whether clubs are bigger than us?

It's getting a bit sad mate TBH.

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Not obsessed. Just find it funny that the supporters of clubs like Wednesday are convinced that they are 'huge'.

ipad1977 said:

Not obsessed. Just find it funny that the supporters of clubs like Wednesday are convinced that they are 'huge'.

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Its 'Massive' actually, at least get it right

cant believe Bristol City and Derby both took more than us to Fulham

worthingseagull said:

cant believe Bristol City and Derby both took more than us to Fulham

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Probably Bristol City's first visit to Craven Cottage in a few years, so a new ground for many.

Our figures are a bit lower than they should of been with with blackburn on a Saturday being postponed to a Tuesday and mk dons being moved to a Tuesday.

Ended up taking 3700 to blackburn and 2300 to mk dons. Both would of sold out or been close to a sell out, being our first visit to mk dons.

8ace said:

I still think it's an outlier looking at our away attendances.
If you remove it from the data then our average is 1250, if you remove the all the "day tripper" games it's 787.

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And if you remove all the fans that actually went to our away games then our average is 0.... Zero..... Zilch.... F..uck all. Now that's piss poor for a club our size.

8ace said:

I still think it's an outlier looking at our away attendances.
If you remove it from the data then our average is 1250, if you remove the all the "day tripper" games it's 787.

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So do the same adjustments with all the others teams too then.

ipad1977 said:

Not obsessed. Just find it funny that the supporters of clubs like Wednesday are convinced that they are 'huge'.

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But why should it bother you?

heathgate said:

So do the same adjustments with all the others teams too then.

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Sure, if you can tell me which games they had cheap ticket deals for.

worthingseagull123 said:

But why should it bother you?

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But why should it bothering him bother you?