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mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,486
Llanymawddwy
I would think they are the vast minority.

Yes, you probably do think that don't you because you're the archetypal read in the Daily Mail so it must be true person. Despite the shameless press coverage of those ordinary working men and women sacrificing their income as this expensive time of year to stand up for what they believe in, you'll find plenty of support even among Southern commuters, for instance.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Yes, you probably do think that don't you because you're the archetypal read in the Daily Mail so it must be true person. Despite the shameless press coverage of those ordinary working men and women sacrificing their income as this expensive time of year to stand up for what they believe in, you'll find plenty of support even among Southern commuters, for instance.

I'm a commuter, I support the strikers , but I detest Corbyn, and I'd bet a large proportion of the strikers. Do as well.
 


Wardy's twin

Well-known member
Oct 21, 2014
8,434
I think times are well gone when you can say labour=Union=Labour=Socialist

The current industrial action is about RMT protecting their working practices and money. Not a bad thing but lets not try to dress it as anything else.
 






mikeyjh

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Dec 17, 2008
4,486
Llanymawddwy
I'm a commuter, I support the strikers , but I detest Corbyn, and I'd bet a large proportion of the strikers. Do as well.

I don't doubt it, it would be a brave man to claim that Corbyn enjoyed majority support among those commuting in the south of England :) Me, I was just countering that knob cheese BG's assertion that was no support for the strikers.
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,892
I think times are well gone when you can say labour=Union=Labour=Socialist

The current industrial action is about RMT protecting their working practices and money. Not a bad thing but lets not try to dress it as anything else.
Why shouldn't people do whatever they can within the law to keep their jobs and wages? Do Govia desperately need the money saved by the ongoing scaling down of jobs across the rail industry?

The ticket office staff can see what's coming,Govia wants them out of the ticket offices and " interacting " with the customers. .... That used to be the role of station porters and ticket collectors until it was decided they weren't needed!

Never seems to be any culls of management no matter how inept or unproductive they are?
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
I don't doubt it, it would be a brave man to claim that Corbyn enjoyed majority support among those commuting in the south of England :) Me, I was just countering that knob cheese BG's assertion that was no support for the strikers.
I didn't say anything about his level of support amongst the commuters, I said I'd bet that a large proportion of the strikers would detest Corbyn, as for the way you referred to BG , have some respect, he's an old boy in his 70s and he may not be "on message" with the likes of you and his views may not concur with yours , but he could be your dad or grandad , and it's plain nasty to refer to him like that.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Why shouldn't people do whatever they can within the law to keep their jobs and wages? Do Govia desperately need the money saved by the ongoing scaling down of jobs across the rail industry?

The ticket office staff can see what's coming,Govia wants them out of the ticket offices and " interacting " with the customers. .... That used to be the role of station porters and ticket collectors until it was decided they weren't needed!

Never seems to be any culls of management no matter how inept or unproductive they are?
Hes just said that what the strikers are doing is not a bad thing , did you actually read his post ?
 


brighton fella

New member
Mar 20, 2009
1,645
I don't know who's worse her or that vile racist Diane Abbott, .. both openly discriminate against the white working class yet never get picked up on it,. staggering to how they came to be elected in the first place and how some people are still voting for them !!. it is no wonder Labour are where they are now when you have the likes of them in high positions of it's party.
 














Not Andy Naylor

Well-known member
Dec 12, 2007
8,797
Seven Dials
I would think they are the vast minority.

Well, if they're a 'vast minority,' then that's presumably a pretty large number, isn't it?

As a lifelong Labour voter and trades union member, I support the strike, at least partly because it is so obviously politically-motivated on the side of the company and its government paymasters. When a Department of Transport official named Peter Wilkinson orders Southern to withdraw a compromise offer to the unions, you're pretty certain. When you hear the Transport Minister admit that he abandoned plans to let TfL take over the Southern lines in London because he didn't want them under the control of a Labour mayor, there's no longer any room for debate.

But I despair of the party leadership, which has lost touch almost entirely with the people it is supposed to represent, especially north of Islington.
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Well, if they're a 'vast minority,' then that's presumably a pretty large number, isn't it?

As a lifelong Labour voter and trades union member, I support the strike, at least partly because it is so obviously politically-motivated on the side of the company and its government paymasters. When a Department of Transport official named Peter Wilkinson orders Southern to withdraw a compromise offer to the unions, you're pretty certain. When you hear the Transport Minister admit that he abandoned plans to let TfL take over the Southern lines in London because he didn't want them under the control of a Labour mayor, there's no longer any room for debate.

But I despair of the party leadership, which has lost touch almost entirely with the people it is supposed to represent, especially north of Islington.
They did that a long , long time before Corbyn.
 








mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,486
Llanymawddwy
I didn't say anything about his level of support amongst the commuters, I said I'd bet that a large proportion of the strikers would detest Corbyn, as for the way you referred to BG , have some respect, he's an old boy in his 70s and he may not be "on message" with the likes of you and his views may not concur with yours , but he could be your dad or grandad , and it's plain nasty to refer to him like that.

You might well be wrong then, as normal.

Respect is a 2 way street, regardless of age.
 




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