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[Football] England v Spain
- Thread starter LamieRobertson
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BensGrandad
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We need a goal so why take off a striker and bring on another one the obvious one to go off was either Ali or Lingard and then go long.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
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Blimey.....refs agreed it...oh he hasn't..officials do look a bit dim
jackalbion
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- Aug 30, 2011
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Such a cowardly decision to make.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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It's a foul unfortunately according to the laws 
"IFAB's Law on indirect free kick offences says that:
[a] goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
...
In the situation described in the question, the goalkeeper is deemed to be in control of the ball.
The attacker would be committing a foul, since according to the same Law,
[a] goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hands."
"IFAB's Law on indirect free kick offences says that:
[a] goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
...
In the situation described in the question, the goalkeeper is deemed to be in control of the ball.
The attacker would be committing a foul, since according to the same Law,
[a] goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hands."
Tribunal Alta
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Let's hope you're not still reffing young Mr G
BensGrandad
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They are suggesting it was foul by Welbeck on the No 5 in the build up.
When it was announced that Harry Kane would be wearing golden boots, the one thing that was guaranteed about this game is that he wouldn't score.
Waddle, quick to lament the crapness of England's football over the years, is surprisingly dispassionate about the officials huge blunder.
Never known him so laid back about an injustice. Roll on VAR.
Never known him so laid back about an injustice. Roll on VAR.
Kuipers Supporters Club
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The law is ridiculous I know. That's why there is so many fouls given on keepers
It's a foul unfortunately according to the laws
"IFAB's Law on indirect free kick offences says that:
[a] goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
...
In the situation described in the question, the goalkeeper is deemed to be in control of the ball.
The attacker would be committing a foul, since according to the same Law,
[a] goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hands."
Wrong he was challenged no different than it had come down on one of his own players. You can’t be deemed to be in control When in the air coming down on a player who’s stationary
Kuipers Supporters Club
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You clearly can, as the referee just deemed that to be the case!
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Looks like all our hopes about Southgate being the new messiah have predictably evaporated as per.
Ref was wrong to give it.
He was very poor all game, but wasn't the worse person on the pitch that would be that non-entity from Spurs,
Not Andy Naylor
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When a Spain player passed the ball, he immediately moved into space so as to be available for a return pass or the pass after next. When an England player passed the ball, in most cases he seemed to think: 'Thank God it's somebody else's problem now.'