worthingseagull123
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Or a far left movement.
Racism and xenophobia is not limited to just the "right wing".
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[News] Germans Attack Anyone That Doesn’t Look German!
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Or a far left movement.
Racism and xenophobia is not limited to just the "right wing".
Sorry but I can't blame Merkel for German neo-Nazis attacking people who have skin pigment. No more would I blame Thatcher for the skin head who hit me (from behind) in 1980 (and then ran away) (although I would blame 'sweetie' Webster and Tyndall who actively encouraged neo nazi-ism).
Perspective!
daveinprague
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Title should read, German neo-nazis attack anybody that doesnt look German. These people are as representative of Germany as the EDL and other far-right groups are representative of the UK.
...but the far-right, and their supporters, mostly armchair, would like people to think they are legion. They are usually heavily outnumbered at demonstrations. Everywhere.
...but the far-right, and their supporters, mostly armchair, would like people to think they are legion. They are usually heavily outnumbered at demonstrations. Everywhere.
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Germany have always had racist neo nazis. They used to attack Turks back in the 80s. Merkel was an idiot for her open door cock up recently, but you can't *blame* her for the thuggery. I see elsewhere you do blame Thatcher for the poll tax riots. Who do you blame for football hooliganism in the 80s? People like an acquaintance of mine at Chelsea (a story that I won't go into now) did not do what he did as a protest against Thatcher. He did it because he enjoyed it. I'm sorry to tell you that people do unaccetable things because they decide to do so and have it in themselve to do so. It is their fault. Incidentally the bloke who threw a large rock from a building during a civil distrurbance a few yars ago in London was a middle class student, not some poor oppressed indiginous disenfranchised wretch. A little shit in other words. A little shit like most of the 'poll tax rioters' and racist thugs in Germany. Stop defending them by giving them a 'justification'. Politicians make mistakes - that doesn't justify attacking people.
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So, The supreme irony of the situation - the victim himself, would have been on the vigilantes’ hitlist
Or alternatively the the title should read Germans attack anyone who looks like a Middle Eastern Refugee?
Maybe.
The title is based on a verbatim quote from a witness in the press report though, in fairness to the thread starter.
GT49er
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I never said it did. Politicians make mistakes, which often create the situations in which violence occurs; cause and effect. If Thatcher hadn't introduced the poll tax, there wouldn't have been poll tax riots. Merkel's mistake created the conditions that resulted in the problems flaring up again in Germany.
Yes, individuals are responsible for their own actions. Politicians who get it wrong share the blame (you can argue the toss about what percentage of it if you like, but it doesn't change the fact).
madinthehead
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Indeed, they do meet in the middle.. But over here they are referred to as far right, and I think they identify themselves as right..
madinthehead
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That is not what I was saying.. My local town (one of the more affluent areas in Germany) also has had its fair share of immigrants from war-torn regions over the last few years, but I have not seen any issues like Chemnitz in the area. The issues relating to resisting the "migrant influx" seem more common in the the poorer areas of East Germany.
Racist thugs attacking brown skinned people is not Merkel's fault, anymore than it's the victim's fault. The fault lies squarely with the Right wing thugs who dealt out the violence. Or are some suggesting that if there were no foreigners in their country these neo-Nazi dunderheads would be sat in their bedroom playing nicely and not being thoroughly unpleasant in a different way? Wrong is wrong. Don't excuse it.
And may I say, it is ludicrous to compare the beating of "non german looking people" to the poll tax riots. The riots were a direct reaction to an unfair, unjust, extra tax being imposed on people, many of whom could barely afford to live as it was. That was a direct result of Thatcher's tyranny.
The former is a bunch of thugs looking for a fight and feeling justified because people are saying "All this violence is Merkel's fault".
And may I say, it is ludicrous to compare the beating of "non german looking people" to the poll tax riots. The riots were a direct reaction to an unfair, unjust, extra tax being imposed on people, many of whom could barely afford to live as it was. That was a direct result of Thatcher's tyranny.
The former is a bunch of thugs looking for a fight and feeling justified because people are saying "All this violence is Merkel's fault".
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The Voice of reason. Don't let foreigners in and they won't get any trouble. Simple.
Spike Milligan said “civilisation is only skin deep”. Many (mainly) males, are only a punch away from really hurting someone in road rage, football hooliganism, attacking an immigrant or conversely attacking a white ‘incumbent’ in a row.
I suspect that CCTV and the consequences of getting caught for anyone with a modicum of intelligence, helps contain violence in a massive way.
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more like controlling your immigration to stop your own people feeling aggrieved about it ??
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Jackthelad
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Germans on the whole are welcoming but the speed of such a huge influx of war-torn people mainly men of fighting age was always going to cause problems.
Shared blame, OK. Weighting the blame however.....I recall how husbands used to 'get off lightly' if they hit their wife (or worse) for infidelity. Or in the 60s, for 'backchat'. It isn't really justification, even though it is attributed as such by the person concerned....anyhow, moving on....
That was what I stated.
rocker959
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Exactly