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Deleted member 2719 · Sep 29, 2018

Decided to listen to music for the first day when I went out for a run.

A wrong decision I couldn't stop myself running too fast. I was actually nearly 30% faster until I blew up and had a 2-minute walk.

Is this a good training strategy

The problem is I tend to like faster music.

What music do you guys run too that suits your pace

Simgull · Sep 29, 2018

Lovely morning in the Prom, but a stinking cold put paid to any chance of a decent time.

An incredible £810 raised through the cake sale.

Guinness Boy · Sep 29, 2018

Mouldy Boots said:
Decided to listen to music for the first day when I went out for a run.

A wrong decision I couldn't stop myself running too fast. I was actually nearly 30% faster until I blew up and had a 2-minute walk.

Is this a good training strategy

The problem is I tend to like faster music.

What music do you guys run too that suits your pace

I never listen to music, partly for this reason. This may be weird but I like to keep an even pace as much as possible (for example I ran a two mile tempo interval the other day with splits of 7.42 and 7.43) and to achieve this I tend to count out a rhythm in my head. It gets a little repetitive on a long run but it's almost just there in the background like breathing and arm swing. I am a little strange though and an ex drummer so this may be why. When I hear music - even the music stations on the big races in Brighton or someone playing loudly out of an open top car it disrupts the "count" and I have to really concentrate to get it back. I want to train to the pace of my training schedule and the needs of my legs - if I listened to music I wouldn't do that. It does make the gym really boring though but then I tend to avoid the dreadmill like the plague.

Deleted member 2719 · Sep 29, 2018

Guinness Boy said:
I never listen to music, partly for this reason. This may be weird but I like to keep an even pace as much as possible (for example I ran a two mile tempo interval the other day with splits of 7.42 and 7.43) and to achieve this I tend to count out a rhythm in my head. It gets a little repetitive on a long run but it's almost just there in the background like breathing and arm swing. I am a little strange though and an ex drummer so this may be why. When I hear music - even the music stations on the big races in Brighton or someone playing loudly out of an open top car it disrupts the "count" and I have to really concentrate to get it back. I want to train to the pace of my training schedule and the needs of my legs - if I listened to music I wouldn't do that. It does make the gym really boring though but then I tend to avoid the dreadmill like the plague.

I will give it one more go tomorrow, I have planned Spandau Ballet, through the barricades for a constant 30 mins!!

I totally get the rhythm thing I also like to hear my heart thumping out of my chest, on feet hitting the ground.

Guinness Boy · Sep 29, 2018

While we're on the subject of questions (and because I'm avoiding the City match) have any of you used rock tape for either injury or performance?

I used some on my dodgy hammy in the BM10K on the advice of one of my mates from a Facebook running group who belongs to a club and he helped me put it on. I wasn't really too sure what it was for, except that I didn't feel a single twinge in the race and it's my second best 10K ever. Googling it the other day, though, it's making claims to enhance your performance. I could really use just an extra 1% in Bright10 as I reckon I'll be a minute or so either side of my PB but I'd have no idea what to tape (no, not THAT bit obviously) in order to do so, nor if I really want to celebrate a PB by pulling out all my leg hairs. Any tips? Does anyone think the performance claims are based on fact or a little dubious?

knocky1 · Sep 29, 2018

Mouldy Boots said:
Decided to listen to music for the first day when I went out for a run.

A wrong decision I couldn't stop myself running too fast. I was actually nearly 30% faster until I blew up and had a 2-minute walk.

Is this a good training strategy

The problem is I tend to like faster music.

What music do you guys run too that suits your pace

Deleted member 2719 · Sep 29, 2018

knocky1 said:

Ha ha, yeah that's more of a cultured 30m sprint!

This is more of my type of listening music, just can't find a run to match it!

https://youtu.be/9E9-L9_S3V0

Greg Bobkin · Sep 29, 2018

Badger said:
I didn't make it into next year's Boston Marathon

The cutoff was a massive 4:52 under qualifying times this year (I only had 3:27). They've now taken 5 minutes off the qualifying times, so I need to come in under 3h05 to apply next year. Probably need a 3h02 to make sure.

Gutted for you.

I was told that I misunderstood Boston when I posted the text below in a running group:

"I'm not particularly fussed about running the majors, but I think this kind of thing is bullshit.

They know that LOADS of people want to run them, but they ALSO know that those same people have no chance of doing it, because of the rules they put in place. Why not limit the number of times runners can take part? Then everyone who wants to can give it a crack.

At the end of the day, running is meant to be a bit of fun that is accessible to all. Putting up these barriers to entry is just a shitty thing to do for 'normal' runners."

I stand by it - I can't stand the elitism about running sometimes [emoji35][emoji35]

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knocky1 · Sep 29, 2018

2 weeks faster pace training hit me hard at the Prom today. Planned on steady 6:55 to 7:10 tempo pace but 7:30 was the default pace. Slight shin splint swelling so will ice, stretch and painfully massage for a couple of days and miss Monday's track if not 100%. Otherwise plan is going well with a few pounds shed and thighs, hamstrings, groin and knee all feeling stronger but they have needed plenty of stretching. 19:59 in 5 weeks time is the target...............

Great fundraising effort at the cake stall.

dazzer6666 · Sep 29, 2018

Guinness Boy said:
While we're on the subject of questions (and because I'm avoiding the City match) have any of you used rock tape for either injury or performance?

I used some on my dodgy hammy in the BM10K on the advice of one of my mates from a Facebook running group who belongs to a club and he helped me put it on. I wasn't really too sure what it was for, except that I didn't feel a single twinge in the race and it's my second best 10K ever. Googling it the other day, though, it's making claims to enhance your performance. I could really use just an extra 1% in Bright10 as I reckon I'll be a minute or so either side of my PB but I'd have no idea what to tape (no, not THAT bit obviously) in order to do so, nor if I really want to celebrate a PB by pulling out all my leg hairs. Any tips? Does anyone think the performance claims are based on fact or a little dubious?

Can help to prevent injury, and speed up recovery from injury but I don’t think it’s performance enhancing, other than maybe allowing you to run harder than you might have been able to if you’re carrying a niggle. Physio explained to me that it helps lift the skin away from the muscle a bit, the extra space for the muscle allowing more blood flow etc. N idea if this is backed up by any science though [emoji23][emoji23]

knocky1 · Sep 29, 2018

Greg Bobkin said:
Gutted for you.

I was told that I misunderstood Boston when I posted the text below in a running group:

"I'm not particularly fussed about running the majors, but I think this kind of thing is bullshit.

They know that LOADS of people want to run them, but they ALSO know that those same people have no chance of doing it, because of the rules they put in place. Why not limit the number of times runners can take part? Then everyone who wants to can give it a crack.

At the end of the day, running is meant to be a bit of fun that is accessible to all. Putting up these barriers to entry is just a shitty thing to do for 'normal' runners."

I stand by it - I can't stand the elitism about running sometimes [emoji35][emoji35]

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No it's about winning! A race against time, yourself and anyone in front or behind you! :blush:

I like to have a few elite races. Us also rans have plenty of others to do.

Guinness Boy · Sep 29, 2018

dazzer6666 said:
Can help to prevent injury, and speed up recovery from injury but I don’t think it’s performance enhancing, other than maybe allowing you to run harder than you might have been able to if you’re carrying a niggle. Physio explained to me that it helps lift the skin away from the muscle a bit, the extra space for the muscle allowing more blood flow etc. N idea if this is backed up by any science though [emoji23][emoji23]

Fairly much what I was thinking. Use if carrying a niggle and you know what you're doing. Steve, the guy who taped me up is a 3.15 marathon runner and knows what he's doing. Me? Not so much :lol:

deletebeepbeepbeep · Sep 29, 2018

Anyone at Ealing HM tomorrow?

big nuts · Sep 30, 2018

deletebeepbeepbeep said:
Anyone at Ealing HM tomorrow?

No Barns Green for me today. I have a spare entry if anyone wants it?

Guinness Boy · Sep 30, 2018

deletebeepbeepbeep said:
Anyone at Ealing HM tomorrow?

big nuts said:
No Barns Green for me today. I have a spare entry if anyone wants it?

Good luck chaps.

Not for me thanks mate, had to choose between Barns Green and Bright10 as my autumn A race and like 10 miles far too much to miss out on Bright10. I will be setting off for a slow 9 mile "taper" run shortly having had eight hours sleep and no booze last night - unlike Friday!

knocky1 · Sep 30, 2018

Guinness Boy said:
Good luck chaps.

Not for me thanks mate, had to choose between Barns Green and Bright10 as my autumn A race and like 10 miles far too much to miss out on Bright10. I will be setting off for a slow 9 mile "taper" run shortly having had eight hours sleep and no booze last night - unlike Friday!

Hope the tape works.

knocky1 · Sep 30, 2018

Good luck today’s competitors. I’ll be getting the league table updated once i’ve had the race report from [MENTION=3736]Mr Banana[/MENTION] who flew to a pb yesterday at Hove Park.

Greg Bobkin · Sep 30, 2018

I actually managed to get up and run! Also, I even had the thought while running that if I sort out my times in the short stuff, I might even enter a 10k [emoji33][emoji33]

Anyway, 8.1 miles felt great this morning.

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Curious Orange · Sep 30, 2018

I'm really pleased with my Barns Green watch time of 1:27:13. Don't know where that came from!

Great to meet up with [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] who made it to the start in the end, and gets extra kudos for turning it in to a brick session by cycling to the course and still putting in a handy time!

soistes · Sep 30, 2018

Curious Orange said:
I'm really pleased with my Barns Green watch time of 1:27:13. Don't know where that came from!

Great to meet up with [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] who made it to the start in the end, and gets extra kudos for turning it in to a brick session by cycling to the course and still putting in a handy time!

What a lovely event BG is. Slightly disappointed that the new sponsor (Dark Star) wasn’t obviously in evidence, and offering free samples (or even paid-for ones), but otherwise thoroughly enjoyed it. Targeted 1:45 and ran with the really friendly and helpful pacer, who knew the course profile like the back of his hand and set the pace accordingly, slightly ahead of target on the flat and downward bits, to give a buffer for the (many) hills. Came in with 1:44:42, which I was very happy with (as an OAP...)

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