By the very nature of their job the police are always going to lie for each other. I don't say that they did I this instance because as I said in my earlier post I found it inconclusive but there is no way that they won't lie for each other because they could never work with their colleagues ever again if they didn't
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Mark Duggan - BBC documentary
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By the very nature of their job the police are always going to lie for each other. I don't say that they did I this instance because as I said in my earlier post I found it inconclusive but there is no way that they won't lie for each other because they could never work with their colleagues ever again if they didn't
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So the gun had no prints or dna and was found 20 yards away and supposedly thrown after he was shot? OK then
Sussex Nomad
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Tottenham has always been a cauldron from crims, it's no wonder the police are constantly on guard around that area. I used to live in Hornsey and down the bottom of the road (and turn left) is Wood Green. I never, ever felt comfortable going there when I had to go shopping.
I agree that the police have to take the necessary precautions but telling the taxi driver they will shoot him if he looks in a particular direction whilst lying restrained on the ground is rather excessive and doesn't demonstrate the level of restaint and level headedness you would expect from a police officer entrusted with the use of a firearm in a volatile situation.
Blimey it really must be a rough area.
None of the experts were present at the the incident. Maybe as the first shot hit him his arm spasmed? The guy was a wrong 'un, the police in a very dangerous, stressful situation, there but for the grace of God.....
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That's an incredibly narrow-minded and blinkered viewpoint.
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The statement made suggests that in that circumstance the police have the 'green light' to open fire, regardless of whether the individual is in possession with intent or not.
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I find it very hard to give a shit that some rude boy gangster was shot dead.
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I wonder what your reaction would be if you were in a shopping mall, and saw someone walking along holding a gun, but of course there was no intent, was there? Bet you would scream for the Police.
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This.
No, it is the truth, to all sensibly minded people.
Yes they have got the green light, by the time they can establish intent with any certainty it is probably too late.
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He wasn't in possession of a gun when he was shot.
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He wasn't in possession of a gun when he was shot
pastafarian
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were we watching the same programme?
im sure they said the gun was 14 feet away and not 60 feet away
i dont think duggans prints or dna were on the gun, as it was wrapped in a sock, but didnt they find blood and dna on the gun and sock that belonged to his mate Foster (who gave it to him) and the bloke he beat with it.
Its not as if Paul Daniels magicked the gun the exact spot where the taxi was stopped
Agree. Didn't see the programme but have read loads about this. Was any mention made of the fact that his uncle was Dessie Noonan? The attempts to portray Duggan as some sort of innocent family man seem laughable.
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Er, no it isn't! It's the very point many if not a majority are making. Unless of course you know best in which case silly general public.
mikeyjh
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It's an accepted fact that he had a gun in the car, it's pretty obvious that he didn't have it on him when he was shot.
It's worth a watch, is well balanced. The thing is, Duggan was not an entirely innocent family man, neither, it appears, was he a big time player. Some of the fundamental issues are being missed here, it should never have ended up like this. Why did the Police allow Kevin Hutchinson Foster hand over the gun in the first place? Seems obvious that the secret intelligence that we can't be told is that Foster was an informant. I can see how they reached a legal killing verdict regarding the act of the shooting itself but the circumstances around it and the way the Police behave afterwards is entirely unsatisfactory.