Leekbrookgull
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Snap election so why two months of campaigning and not three weeks from firing the starting pistol ?
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Colossal Squid
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Are we really still hearing from upset Tories that this was anything but a DISASTER for the right?
Just look at the facts. How are you going to persuade the electorate to vote for you again? There are no ideas and you've nothing left to bribe people with. Even your ferocious press machine has failed.
What we're witnessing is what's been predicted for years now. We just needed the belief that things could change. Now we've seen they can, the parties of progress will only increase their share.
Honestly, there's nothing left in the tank. Regressive politics has been found out.
Regroup and try something new but please stop trying desperately to dress this up as anything less than a shambles for the Conservatives
Just look at the facts. How are you going to persuade the electorate to vote for you again? There are no ideas and you've nothing left to bribe people with. Even your ferocious press machine has failed.
What we're witnessing is what's been predicted for years now. We just needed the belief that things could change. Now we've seen they can, the parties of progress will only increase their share.
Honestly, there's nothing left in the tank. Regressive politics has been found out.
Regroup and try something new but please stop trying desperately to dress this up as anything less than a shambles for the Conservatives
And how exactly is that different, from the Tory party having Lord Sugar all over twitter warning of the horrors that lay in store* if we voted Labour?
*like the removal of generous tax breaks for big businesses like his own, entirely coincidentally
I don't know as I don't know who they are, but apparently they know. It's all a bit secret.
East Preston Gull
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Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Could be a metaphorical weekend of the long knives...
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East Preston Gull
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pb21
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turienzo's lovechild
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I think its different because all the Tory ones were twats and all the Labour ones were people that the general public actually like
Raleigh Chopper
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Spoken like a true Tory, that is why your party is a total shambles.
Even now you don't get it do you.
If another election is called soon you and your sort will be in opposition, where you belong.
I am getting very worried about your mate Hastings Gull, but at least, unlike you he seems to have gone to ground.
Well, each of them are a 'celebrity' whose endorsement is being courted by a political party, to appeal to a specific sector of the electorate.
So kind of exactly the same.
No. All I'm saying is that most of the polls at the end (note: not the exit poll) were clearly wrong, so there's a decent chance the polls at the beginning were too. What was the final difference at the ballot box - 4% or so? So, maybe the opening differential was more like 14%, not 22%. There's no way of knowing of course, and I think you'll struggle to find anyone who'll suggest that the Labour campaign wasn't streets ahead of the Conservatives.
Who are you addressing here exactly?
Seagull kimchi
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Plenty of folk on here herded with the corporate media and agreed with the (attempted) character assassination of JC.
I've tried to find out. Apparently 'they know who they are'.
turienzo's lovechild
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the tories completely underestimated just how hated they are by young people in this country and their inability to attract young voters has cost them dear. A good example is the media- the tories went all in on newspapers whereas Labour did a lot on social media with the intention of making their message accessible to young voters. It's just another example of the arrogance of May and she probably assumed that young people just wouldn't bother, whereas Corbyn, alongside some notable celebs who young people admire managed to mobilise "da kidz" and gambled on the fact that he could get young people to vote
One result I missed last night was Thanet South. This was the Tory MP who was charged with electoral fraud. Anyway, he got back in - what happens if he is found guilty, presumably he won't be able to vote - thus making the 'majority' a bit smaller for a while?
Curious Orange
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Since when has Alan Sugar become a Tory peer? He was Labour for a very long time!
Seagull kimchi
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I get that - so trends are telling us to elect......
I'm not sure how you determine "belong" here. The closest way of measuring it that I can think of is a General Election that was held yesterday. In that the Conservative party received 13,616,601 votes which was the most of any party and 318 seats, also the most of any party.
How are you measuring belong in this instance?