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Rugrat said:

Yes deep rooted problems for sure but none of us can do much more than guess where the problems are coming from. Appears most of us seem to think multiple sources.

Missing B'muff ... bad enough watching the current stuff at home without all the agg of travelling

But think we could have a new Manager (Coach?) by then, so maybe a dream start?

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Simster said:

...who still thinks the clueless bin-dipping Finnish prick should be give more time?

Only I'd say I haven't seen NSC quite as unanimous as this on any subject before.

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Diego Napier said:

Good post, I agree with most of your points apart from:-

3. Don't judge the cause of our problems from what you read on here!
9. We remember the best games from those players but they never all played together, it was spread over 3 seasons and along with injuries there were lots of inconsistent or even poor performance from them. We do have a high quality squad; for most games we've played this year our players have been better technically, it's the team tactics that have let us down, along with an ineffectual front line. The odd mistake at the back isn't a problem if you've banged in 3 upfront.

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jimbob5 said:

Take your point re the ex players. The tactics can't be THAT bad given they are not being thumped by e.g. Watford, Forest etc. Might the tactics seem a bit better if even just one of the forwards grew a pair and sharpened up. [mixed metaphors are great]

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Husty said:

I don't buy the whole - trying a system without the players thing. The system is just dog shit. That's the problem.

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jimbob5 said:

I think they should keep him for a month and then review.

1. it will be costly to pay him off.
2. Whoever comes in will smell blood and won't do it cheap if he's any good.
3. He is not solely responsible for the problems judging by posts.
4. They have only lost one game by more than one goal.
5. They are a relatively new team.
6. A lot of posters seem to be very naive about the quality of the Championship.
7. If the club DO end up going down, why are so many people assuming they'll do a Portsmouth. Why not a Wolves? or Bristol City even.
8. When you quote the mantra 'keep the faith' you might actually consider what that means.
9. Take Buckley, Upson, Bridge, Bridcott, Ulloa etc away from most Championship squads and try to replace them with finite recourses given who's available and you will see a struggling team.
10. How unlucky can a manager be for ALL strikers to be so ineffective over such a long period. If that's down to tactics, it must take some doing!
11. Brighton actually struggled with their scoring LAST season if you look at the stats.
12. At the very least you might as well leave him in charge for the Bournemouth game which they'll probably lose whoever is in charge etc etc etc

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Eggmundo said:

The season has already gone, give him untill January. At least he would have had a fair crack at it and then he can't complain when we do sack him.

Plus a relegation battle is good for attendances

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B.W. said:

Get your head out of the sand. At least with a new manager we have a chance of turning our season around...

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ruthers said:

I really don't think getting rid of SH is the answer right now. Replace with who exactly? Tony has made this seasons choice (a bad one perhaps) but more disruption right now with another panic appointment really could kill us off.
I still maintain I'm being better entertained than last season where we watched our rear third possession between Greer, Upson & PIG bore us to tears.
What we miss is a proven goal scorer who can make space & actually shoot, unlike the powder puff stuff we are seeing out there now. As I think the post match comments suggested yesterday was akin to us being down to 9 men with Baldock & O'Grady's inputs. I'm still happier seeing 4 upfront when we're pushing forward rather than a huge gap between our packed defense sitting deep whilst we slowly throw it forward to an isolated Ulloa.

I always wanted a more passionate British manager in the mould of Sherwood or Pullis but Tony appears to like stable introverts, more fool him.

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jimbob5 said:

Thanks. I can tell you studies each point I made in detail. They said Sam in East London was a waste of space.

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B.W. said:

There's absolutely no point taking each of your points 1 by 1. If you can't recognize the tactical shambles that we are witnessing game after game, then you clearly are clueless.

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Bladders said:

.............to blame?

Seems no one can make their mind up whether the players are shit, Hypia is shit, Burke is an idiot, Barber is the Devil or Tony has made a clanger with all of the current appointments.

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Bold Seagull said:

I just posted this on another thread which sums up my feelings…

We appear to currently have a manager who has a system he likes to play - irrelevant who his players are.

Now Sami may well have been dealt a poor hand with our transfer dealings, but I just feel a manager worth his corn would start playing to their strengths. I've got friends who didn't like Garcia, but are now singing his praises in that at least he got his team competing and basically had them playing to their strengths.

We're now neither very good defensively or offensively. I think Greer's form has nose dived with the added pressure of covering vacant fullback positions. Our defending is a mess at times. They're all decent players, but the roles they are being asked to do are incredibly challenging that in a game there isn't any real respite for them. If we're doing well, then we're left with 2 at the back and no defensive width.

Bennett is excellent going forward, but very slow in getting back. Calderon is an adequate Championship full back - he is a long way short of a marauding wing back and is being asked to do a job he simply shouldn't be asked to do. Let the guy do what he's best at - defending, with the occasional overlapping run.

'Overlap' is not a tactic being used by us at all as it happens. We've got no one running between the lines, dropping back in to let someone run beyond. We're very square in the way we play, making it easy to organise against.

I'm really lost with what Hyppia is trying to achieve. I defended Garcia as I thought he had a system that could evolve into something better, and there was an organisation there that for the large part worked, despite being a bit dull at times. We look poor in comparison at the moment and the second season running we've gone backwards.

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B.W. said:

We have far, far more chance of surviving if we sack Sami now.

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Guinness Boy said:

He's got to go.

We spent the summer buying lemons but we gave them to a chef who only knows how to make steak and kidney pudding.

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