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Big increase in London violent crime - Khan out ?



Live by the sea

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Oct 21, 2016
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With a big increase in violent crime in London over the last 12 months, knife crime up over 10% according to the Guardian, acid attacks over 25% etc is it time to give Sadiq Khan his marching orders ?

He seems a nice enough bloke but is he not out of his depth ?

He talks a good talk but little actual ideas or response on the serious crime escalation in London.
 




Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
10,869
Crawley
How do we give Khan his marching orders?
 




1234andcounting

Well-known member
Mar 31, 2008
1,609
With a big increase in violent crime in London over the last 12 months, knife crime up over 10% according to the Guardian, acid attacks over 25% etc is it time to give Sadiq Khan his marching orders ?

He seems a nice enough bloke but is he not out of his depth ?

He talks a good talk but little actual ideas or response on the serious crime escalation in London.

Thanks for posting Amber, but I think you would be better off spending time defending your wafer thin majority.
 




Feb 23, 2009
22,840
Brighton factually.....
With a big increase in violent crime in London over the last 12 months, knife crime up over 10% according to the Guardian, acid attacks over 25% etc is it time to give Sadiq Khan his marching orders ?

He seems a nice enough bloke but is he not out of his depth ?

He talks a good talk but little actual ideas or response on the serious crime escalation in London.

Simple answer nope, crime being committed is hardly his fault, the cuts in budgets across the board affecting councils, police etc are more to blame along with a growing gap between the haves and have nots. That and come on Croydon is on those statistics it's hardly fair is it.
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Blame the poxy govenment you all voted for [emoji16]

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Eeyore

Lord Donkey of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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With a big increase in violent crime in London over the last 12 months, knife crime up over 10% according to the Guardian, acid attacks over 25% etc is it time to give Sadiq Khan his marching orders ?

He seems a nice enough bloke but is he not out of his depth ?

He talks a good talk but little actual ideas or response on the serious crime escalation in London.

What should he do ? Tell people to stop being so naughty as central government cuts to policing are biting hard.
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,007
Burgess Hill
With a big increase in violent crime in London over the last 12 months, knife crime up over 10% according to the Guardian, acid attacks over 25% etc is it time to give Sadiq Khan his marching orders ?

He seems a nice enough bloke but is he not out of his depth ?

He talks a good talk but little actual ideas or response on the serious crime escalation in London.

Would you prefer the Boris Buffoon to still be there?
 


RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,498
Vacationland
It's a noisy statistic. Could go down again next year, in accord with long-term trends. Or go up, again. Or go sideways. Might be significant, might not.

If you've got an ax to grind, or looking for reasons to do what you've already decided on, the statistic's probably good enough.
 












darkwolf666

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Nov 8, 2015
7,575
Sittingbourne, Kent
Simple answer nope, crime being committed is hardly his fault, the cuts in budgets across the board affecting councils, police etc are more to blame along with a growing gap between the haves and have nots. That and come on Croydon is on those statistics it's hardly fair is it.

Not to jump to the defence of the indefensible, but Lambeth and Southwarks crime figures are by far worse than Croydons...
 


Da Man Clay

T'Blades
Dec 16, 2004
16,254
It's a noisy statistic. Could go down again next year, in accord with long-term trends. Or go up, again. Or go sideways. Might be significant, might not.

If you've got an ax to grind, or looking for reasons to do what you've already decided on, the statistic's probably good enough.

There is some truth in this. Crime statistics are inherently flawed due to the way police forces work and a large amount of the rules are based on interpretation. They were removed as national statistics in 2013/2014 due to their volitity and lack of confidence in the data following auditing by HMIC amongst other things.

Rises in knife and firearm crime however are more difficult to explain away due to the severity of them. It's one area forces are pretty good at recording things. Some of the rise is undoubtably real. Some is due to better recording. The challenge is working out which is which and what causes it. I can say with almost 100% certainly crime will rise again though the next time the stats come out.

I can't imagine 20,000 less police officers and more than that in support staff is helping.

That article is interesting. It's based on the crime survey of England and Wales which is based on surveying a relatively small but statistically significant group of people and then factoring up. It misses out a large proportion of high risk crime including homicide and serious sex offences.
 


Tokyohands

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Jan 5, 2017
940
Tokyo
The long and short of it is a lack of police presence but as was seen from the last major London riots, the police we do have are not willing to act.
 


Wellesley

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Jul 24, 2013
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Sharia Khan.
 




Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
What police force we have left are concentrating so much on anti terrorism, patrolling possible areas (shopping centres, railway stations etc that they have taken there eye off of violent crime.
The fact that the police do not turn out very quickly to burglary and road patrols are non existent, the knife weilders are back on the streets knowing they will probably not get caught.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,198
The Fatherland
I await [MENTION=5101]BigGully[/MENTION], as he seemed to think crime was down the last time this was discussed.
 



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