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Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
16,653
Fiveways
hans kraay fan club said:
Good post.

I've never liked that the term is thrown at anyone successful, who reveals any left leaning stance, or any socialist principles. That is a nonsense.

I think the term has a place, where seeking to highlight hypocrisy. But being successful, and having (and sharing) a social conscience are far from mutually exclusive.
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This is a good post too, because there's nuance here, which doesn't often rear its head on NSC's politics threads (including from me). Anyway, back to Mortimer, my memory seems to indicate that he actually had a glass of champagne at breakfast on a daily basis (I suspect this wasn't his only one of many days).
 




whitelion

whitelion

New member
Dec 16, 2003
12,828
Southwick
Shropshire Seagull said:
Well, hats off and fair play to all you Noble Order of Brave Stayers that are doing all-nighters.

For me, it's comparable to Christmas for the under 5's - an air of excitement tinged with an air of expectation and predictability - no point trying to stay awake to see Santa struggle with his big sack of gifts for you - just get to sleep and hope you wake up in the morning surprised .... and you got what you asked for!
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Oi what you sayin'?
 


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seagulls4ever

New member
Oct 2, 2003
4,338
Triggaaar said:
It's on YT.

That's what all politicians do in all interviews. When Labour are asked how they're going to finance their plans, they don't have an answer (other than 'we're going to tax the rich', which isn't exactly the precise detail we need).
Who has said this?
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All politicians do it but Theresa May has taken it to another level. It's been widely viewed as one of the main reasons her campaign has been as bad as it has, and also viewed​ as the reason why she has been avoiding interviews outside of stage-managed and pre selected questions. It's been a big talking point so I'm surprised you need me to point you in the direction of people who have commented on it, but here's a good summary article.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence...nd-its-driving?utm_term=.ugaPGlP6n#.wxjaPQagL

Here's a particularly comical example: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-herald-devon-soundbite-answers-a7767426.html

This is the reason why she was avoiding debates and interviews, because she's a liability in front of the camera and it was costing her votes.
 


Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,572
I'm sure they called the 1992 election wrong. How did they do with BREXIT ?
 
















Bozza

Bozza

You can change this
Helpful Moderator
Jul 4, 2003
55,738
Back in Sussex
There's been a big swing away from the Tories on Betfair this morning in the 'Most seats', 'Next Government' and 'Overall Majority' markets.

Still heavily odds on at 1/10, 1/4 and 1/4 respectively, but quite a shift from where things were yesterday evening.
 


whitelion

whitelion

New member
Dec 16, 2003
12,828
Southwick
Don't know if it happens these days but in the seventies the Dome was a great night on election night.

I can recall a few occasions when I'd had a night out in town and spent the rest of the night hearing the results coming in then walking home in the early hours to west Hove.
 




Baker lite

Baker lite

Banned
Mar 16, 2017
6,309
in my house
happypig said:
I always say "I am not a number, I am a free man". Mostly goes over the heads of the old dears with a biro and bag of werthers
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The Tory bird in Greenland road poling station Worthing was very tidy,most of yer old Tory Doris on duty usually smell of piss and lavender water.
 










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martin tyler

Well-known member
Jan 25, 2013
5,844
Hove does seem busy. Looks like a seat that could go either way. Fairly close on betfair exchange with Kyle still slight favourite. Looks like there will be a small majority one way or the other. Having spoken to a few people I know that was I'm going to go a slight Tory majority
 


sully

sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,833
Worthing
Triggaaar said:
38 Degrees is a British not-for-profit political-activism organisation. It describes itself as "progressive" and claims to "campaign for fairness, defend rights, promote peace, preserve the planet and deepen democracy in the UK.

It is a biased website.

It doesn't matter who sent it to you.
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My point was that the "quiz" was giving accurate results and therefore didn't appear biased :shrug:
 










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