So, it’s the same question in every genera election. Should we do away with these until they change the question?
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[Politics] Brexit
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So, it’s the same question in every genera election. Should we do away with these until they change the question?
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 30,590
Is that something you "see" through your rose-tinted glasses?!
All the polls are saying the public are increasingly getting less confidence that May will deliver Brexit and increasingly regard her government's handling of Brexit as poor.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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I think you will find that the Grimsby fishing fleet was decimated ( actually they lost a lot more than 10%) because they had caught all the fish! That's why we had the Cod War in the 70's with Iceland because we had started wiping out their stock too!
And the question would be different once we know the deal. They were promised the world e.g. The 350 million that was the crucial reason they won according to leave campaign and various other points. So the question is based on a different premise isn't it? Give it another year and lack of workers in NHS and another season of rotten food and see the economy struggling and see what a vote will be in 12 months!
At least house prices are now acknowledged to be falling in London and south east. Bizarrely this good news will be portrayed as bad. Funny old world we live in.
nicko31
Well-known member
If fish processing from Iceland is such a great business, why are they looking for an exemption from Brexit?
Cake and eat it, its what business strives for .......
GT49er
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The government is pretty incompetent and, yes, may agree that the handling of Brexit has been poor. You would have to be a remainer with rose coloured glasses, though, to think that that indicates that people want to call off Brexit and sink back into the clutches of the EU.
GT49er
Well-known member
Sigh.........
Why is it that only frustrated remainers continue to believe that anyone ever took that seriously?
Can't disagree with that!
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Well you always live and learn.All the history books say that the Cod War was caused by Iceland unilaterally extending their territorial waters by about 50 miles and ramming German and British trawlers.Glad you could correct the world with your unique knowledge of events!
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
- 5,964
Frustrated remainers? Who was that chap who said that the £350m claim was (a) a lie and (b) one without which the referendum would have gone the other way?
That's the one. Dominic Cummins. Campaign Director of Vote Leave. If anyone knows about the effect of that particular lie it would be him.
As pointed out by others. That did clinch it. Seriously. You need to see the data.
nicko31
Well-known member
It was the lie that conned a lot of people. If those in cabinet who were in the lie can't deliver, they need to do the honourable thing and join Patel, Fallon etc
The entire leave campaign was built upon that lie.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 27,895
They extended their territorial limit in order to keep their Cod stocks unlike us who fished them almost to extinction.
Other than tourism that is about their only resource, and having seen what we had done to our own Pilchard, Herring and Cod stocks they took preventative action. Believe me, we were brilliant at wiping out fish stocks long before the EU came about.
Other than tourism that is about their only resource, and having seen what we had done to our own Pilchard, Herring and Cod stocks they took preventative action. Believe me, we were brilliant at wiping out fish stocks long before the EU came about.
SK1NT
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still leaving though
regards
DR,
I wouldn't hold your breath. The referendum was simply an aid for the politicians to decide (that is what a democracy is) we vote them in, and they decide.
If a referendum was made to have my arm chopped off and i lost it. Doesn't mean i cannot still argue against it. After all i am allowed an opinion, that is democracy.
Theresa May still cannot admit she wouldn't vote remain again and she knows more about it than us.
Food remaining unpicked and rotting in fields: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/05/brexit-uk-food-industry-eu-fruit-veg-pickers
Nurses 96% down since brexit and hospital wards are closing: https://www.theguardian.com/society...istering-to-work-in-britain-since-brexit-vote
9000 banks planning on leaving the UK after brexit: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...eu-european-union-jpmorgan-hsbc-a7724231.html
The argumnet for Brexit about soverignty. Parliament has always been sovereign: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...endum-campaign-brussels-article-a7559556.html
The British government has always retained full control over its own border controls. They just never operated them: https://fullfact.org/europe/border-security-eu/
This thread fooked me off long ago but since i last posted more and more fact based evidence is coming to light about the horrors of brexit.
note: don't expect a response from me should you respond to this. Lifes to short.
FatSuperman
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- Feb 25, 2016
- 2,830
I've not heard anyone be that positive about it for ages. I am of the belief that they should all, ALL OF THEM, be getting on with this and not trying to continuously score points against each other. It's a total bloody farce. The choice has been made (wrongly in my view) but they need to get the best out of it that they can. Which I have very little confidence that they can achieve. Woefully inept.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
Bedwetters and anti-democrats still blathering on I see.
Did it? Care to provide a link to the data?
If you want to believe Dominic Cummings ...''The cold reality of the referendum is no clear story, no ‘one big causal factor’, and no inevitability – it was ‘men going at it blind’. The result was an emergent property of many individual actions playing out amid a combination of three big forces"
Did it? Care to provide a link to the data?
If you want to believe Dominic Cummings ...''The cold reality of the referendum is no clear story, no ‘one big causal factor’, and no inevitability – it was ‘men going at it blind’. The result was an emergent property of many individual actions playing out amid a combination of three big forces"
nicko31
Well-known member
Don't worry Mr. NHS, Penny has arrived in cabinet. Those queues for the operating theatre will soon be gone
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
So,there were only British trawlers there?
Why do people like you make out the British as the only villain all the time?If you don't like being British,go somewhere else.