[Albion] Is Lewis Dunk abusing the ref?

Thunder Bolt said:

Jacqui Oatley seems to think so.

https://twitter.com/JacquiOatley/status/1061985932180623360


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My opinion is that he is reacting to the red, he isn't facing the referee, the refs face doesn't alter, so he hasn't heard it.

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Beanstalk said:

I was always told growing up that it was unacceptable to attack the referee verbally. However, it was passable to react to a decision in a negative fashion as long as you didn't make it personal.

For example, Dunky shouting "F*** Off" is fine, whereas had he shouted "F*** Off you incompetent little twerk, before you make an idiotic decision, learn to read, go to your local library and then get out a copy of Football for Dummies" it would have been worthy of punishment.

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Thunder Bolt said:

It's stirring, no more and no less.

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Brian Munich said:

Which is EXACTLY what you are doing but then you just can't resist sticking your nose in to everything can you

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Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:

No but proves the point, that most of them are only there because of their sex.

She clearly wanted to make a valid point, but being clueless about what she is talking about, has picked totally the wrong clip to make that point with. It's clear Dunk was shouting at someone else.

It would not have been hard for her to find a clip of a premier league player in the referees face. This is just very very very lazy journalism, from someone who no doubt got handed the job, because she hasn't got a cock between her legs. It clear she didn't work hard for the position, as if she had she would tried a bit harder to find a clip that back up her point, which is a serious matter.

If you want to take it further, then if Dunk WAS abusing the ref, why did he not show him the red card, as per the rules. Instead of the blaming the players, I would look more at the premier league referees for failing in their duty. If they sent off premier league players who abuse them, maybe the message would filter,

But no, lets just stick up for the girls and forget the actual serious issue.

She tried. She Failed. Silly bit**

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The Large One said:

It's perfectly acceptable to agree or disagree with her on this issue, but the vilification of Jacqui Oatley - a widely respected journalist and presenter with far more knowledge and nous than many on here - just because she is a woman and with such appalling misogyny, is beyond pathetic. I genuinely thought that Brighton fans were a bit more enlightened than that. Clearly some Cro-Magnon throwbacks still lurk on these pages.

For what it's worth, I think that her Tweet comes as a loaded statement, and she hasn't considered all angle and possibilities, so I disagree with her viewpoint. But it's not like any blokes in the know have never done that, is it?

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Bridcutt said:

**** off you sexist prick

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Not Andy Naylor said:

Jacqui O is a personal friend of mine so everything I say can be taken as biased, but I can tell you she has worked extremely hard in journalistic terms to get where she is today. The idea that anyone gets handed a job in what is now a cut-throat and highly competitive profession is laughable. She has done her time in the lower leagues (including at Withdean) and knows her stuff.

That, of course, doesn't mean she has got this one right. Personally I think the footage is inconclusive, but she might have been wiser not to post it, especially as her Wolves loyalties leave her open to accusations that it's all sour grapes over Coady (who would no doubt have applauded the referee if he had sent off a teammate in similar circumstances).

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Thunder Bolt said:

The point of the thread is that from a different angle, Dunk is behind the referee, so not actually shouting at or even to him. but at Cardiff players not in the shot.
People say the camera never lies, but it does.

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Bold Seagull said:

I think he tells Gunardsson to F off first, then someone running in behind Atkinson. Don't think he even looks at the ref. Shot is foreshortened he's further behind Atkinson than it looks in those shot, he then runs round the front of Atkinson not even stopping to speak or say anything. Think you're wrong as is Oakley, nothing to do with specs.

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PILTDOWN MAN said:

What is particularly poor, in her view that he abused the ref, is he not once looked at him but was only interested in the Cardiff players all over reacting.

She maybe a friend to you but to the many she has acted to show someone in a bad light and when the truth is obvious, and failed to correct herself.

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