If Gus got the sack, would you have him back?

Bombadier Botty · Mar 15, 2015

Mo Gosfield said:
Really....REALLY!!!!.....you can't be serious.
I think you are suffering from a disorder that afflicts a number of BHA fans where Gus Poyet is concerned. Its called ' selective memory disorder ' They remember the free flowing wins against the likes of Blackpool and Barnsley ( poor sides ) the emotional win v Palace and one or two others. They forget the grindingly boring possession football, the back four rolling the ball between themselves for ages and the tight nervy games that ensued. I saw some of the worse football I have ever witnessed under Poyet. Mind numbing football. He lacked imagination at times and was always cautious. He wasn't a gambler. He was frightened to unleash Vicente. He would rather play safe. He did well, steering us to fourth but that was with the best team in the division. We should have gone up automatically. ( certain other managers would have taken us up )
Poyet is self-centred and not that intelligent. He has an animal cunning but is a rather empty vessel. In his playing career he would drive teammates mad with his incessant talking and self-importance. I don't believe he is a listener and I don't believe he is learner. Why should he be...he knows everything already. His managerial career won't develop. He has peaked already. Basic gameplans, too rigid, too cautious.
Its an obvious no from me, for the above reasons, but above anything else, I felt that his behaviour, in his last few weeks here, was not befitting of a manager of BHA. He showed his true character and its a character I don't like. I don't like my club being held to ransom. I don't like my Chairman being held to ransom and I don't like my manager prostituting himself to a rival club, when he should have been concentrating on getting BHA promoted.
CH is a decent man, a good manager and an honourable one. Thats good enough for me.

Great post

Rogero · Mar 15, 2015

Everest said:
Shit on the club once, you don't get a chance to rectify it.

It was not him.It was the Palace driver!

Hamilton · Mar 15, 2015

Please mods. Anyone who mentions Poyet in this context should be given an automatic 1 week ban.

Can we stop looking back all the time!

Hughton Out! Barber Out! Bloom Out! Bring back Bellotti.

BLOCK F · Mar 15, 2015

The_Viper said:
I was wondering this yesterday and asked myself. If Gus got the sack from Sunderland and came to Tony a humbled and changed man and asked for a second chance, would you have him back after his previous tenure?

I think if Tony was willing to have him I'd take him back in a heart beat. The pain and bitterness from his first time in charge has worn off for me.

Likewise if OG was to come back with a strong assistant I'd take him in a heartbeat also.

Nothing against CH in the slightest, but I also don't think he'll be the man to take us up. He'll give us a few seasons of mid table mediocrity IMO.

A wind up, surely?

Everest · Mar 15, 2015

Rogero said:
It was not him.It was the Palace driver!

I know.
Just a play on words.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 15, 2015

Mo Gosfield said:
Really....REALLY!!!!.....you can't be serious.
I think you are suffering from a disorder that afflicts a number of BHA fans where Gus Poyet is concerned. Its called ' selective memory disorder ' They remember the free flowing wins against the likes of Blackpool and Barnsley ( poor sides ) the emotional win v Palace and one or two others. They forget the grindingly boring possession football, the back four rolling the ball between themselves for ages and the tight nervy games that ensued. I saw some of the worse football I have ever witnessed under Poyet. Mind numbing football. He lacked imagination at times and was always cautious. He wasn't a gambler. He was frightened to unleash Vicente. He would rather play safe. He did well, steering us to fourth but that was with the best team in the division. We should have gone up automatically. ( certain other managers would have taken us up )
Poyet is self-centred and not that intelligent. He has an animal cunning but is a rather empty vessel. In his playing career he would drive teammates mad with his incessant talking and self-importance. I don't believe he is a listener and I don't believe he is learner. Why should he be...he knows everything already. His managerial career won't develop. He has peaked already. Basic gameplans, too rigid, too cautious.
Its an obvious no from me, for the above reasons, but above anything else, I felt that his behaviour, in his last few weeks here, was not befitting of a manager of BHA. He showed his true character and its a character I don't like. I don't like my club being held to ransom. I don't like my Chairman being held to ransom and I don't like my manager prostituting himself to a rival club, when he should have been concentrating on getting BHA promoted.
CH is a decent man, a good manager and an honourable one. Thats good enough for me.

I love the way you accuse some fans of selective memory disorder by focusing on the negatives, but conveniently forgetting the escape from relegation in his very first managerial position, and the record breaking (several records) season that followed to ensure that we went into the Amex in the Championship and not as a League 1 or even a League 2 team.
If you're going to discuss Gus Poyet then discuss the whole 3.5 years.

Blue3 · Mar 15, 2015

No never go back we have a fine manager in CH and long may he continue

scooter1 · Mar 15, 2015

No.
Whilst we had some very good times under GP, he is a despicable man with very slopey shoulders.
From the point he left our club, and under the cloud he left I'm glad he has now become another clubs problems. I lost respect for him the moment he started talking about wanting the Leeds job, whilst in a promotion race at our club. The rest is history, let's leave it there

Megazone · Mar 15, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
I love the way you accuse some fans of selective memory disorder by focusing on the negatives, but conveniently forgetting the escape from relegation in his very first managerial position,

Can you remind us of this 'escape from relegation' Poyet amazingly pulled off?

When Gus took over, how many points were we from safety and how many games did we have left?

carteater · Mar 15, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
If you're going to discuss Gus Poyet then discuss the whole 3.5 years.

We had 3.5 successful years with Poyet in charge, where he took us from relegation fodder in league one, to promotion contenders in the championship, however it was probably the easiest period in the club's history for any manager to do that, as there was the major feel good factor of the AMEX and the funds of Tony Bloom to carry us, but credit to him though as he got the team playing some superb football, especially at the Withdean, where we destroyed league one, but in the Championship he was more cautious and there were many bore draws that really didn't need to be bore draws, still there are some fantastic memories that were left such as the 3-0 win over palace, 2-1 vs doncaster, 6-1 vs blackpool, the signing of Vicente, the highest finish for 30 years etc., and some not so pleasant ones such as the play-off defeat to palace, and as said earlier the many unnecessary negative home performances. All in all Poyet's tenure was a great time for the club that could have debatably been even better, and ended bitterly and somewhat abruptly.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 15, 2015

Megazone said:
Can you remind us of this 'escape from relegation' Poyet amazingly pulled off?

When Gus took over, how many points were we from safety and how many games did we have left?

You're quite capable of looking it up for yourself. We were in a relegation place when he took over.

Megazone · Mar 15, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
We were in a relegation place when he took over.

So were Spurs when Redknapp took over. That doesn't mean he saved them from relegation.

We had the likes of Murray and Forster upfront. Dicker, Crofts and Bennett in the middle and El-abd and Elphick at the back.

Even Hyppia would of kept that team from relegation to league 2.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 15, 2015

Megazone said:
So were Spurs when Redknapp took over. That doesn't mean he saved them from relegation.

We had the likes of Murray and Forster upfront. Dicker, Crofts and Bennett in the middle and El-abd and Elphick at the back.

Even Hyppia would of kept that team from relegation to league 2.

That's nonsense and you know it. Slade might have kept us up, as he'd managed the season before, but there were no guarantees. Tony Bloom didn't want to take that chance. We didn't just survive, we finished in 11th place. So who got the best out of Dicker, Murray, Crofts & Bennett? I don't include Forster as he went at the end of January.

Lower West Stander · Mar 15, 2015

I think the response of the majority on this thread says it all.

Despite the massive success he had at the club and the fact that we (arguably) came within a Speroni save of the Premiership under his watch, virtually no one would have him back.

Says a lot about his character and emphasises the fact that any club who hired him going forward is just asking for trouble.

Westdene Wonder · Mar 15, 2015

jimbob5 said:
Provocative question but apart from the fact it won't happen it would be a disgraceful snub to CH and probably it would backfire horrendously.

Gus left when he realised there was no cash available to improve the side,this situation has not changed so chance of him returning.

Weststander · Mar 15, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
I've already heard rumblings against Hughton especially about his team selections, and squad rotations. I heard someone wanting him sacked after yesterday's game.
All managerial appointments end in tears, one way or another.

Unhappy with Hughton, with the turnaround he's achieved in a very short time with a weak squad heading for League One, then they (you) will never be happy. Give the bloke a chance.

Thunder Bolt · Mar 15, 2015

Weststander said:
Unhappy with Hughton, with the turnaround he's achieved in a very short time with a weak squad heading for League One, then they (you) will never be happy. Give the bloke a chance.

You're preaching to the wrong person. I didn't say it, others have.

jimbob5 · Mar 15, 2015

Westdene Wonder said:
Gus left when he realised there was no cash available to improve the side,this situation has not changed so chance of him returning.

He was sacked though!

carteater · Mar 15, 2015

Thunder Bolt said:
That's nonsense and you know it. Slade might have kept us up, as he'd managed the season before, but there were no guarantees. Tony Bloom didn't want to take that chance. We didn't just survive, we finished in 13th place. So who got the best out of Dicker, Murray, Crofts & Bennett? I don't include Forster as he went at the end of January.

Corrected for you. :thumbsup:

TottonSeagull · Mar 15, 2015

Mo Gosfield said:
Really....REALLY!!!!.....you can't be serious.
I think you are suffering from a disorder that afflicts a number of BHA fans where Gus Poyet is concerned. Its called ' selective memory disorder ' They remember the free flowing wins against the likes of Blackpool and Barnsley ( poor sides ) the emotional win v Palace and one or two others. They forget the grindingly boring possession football, the back four rolling the ball between themselves for ages and the tight nervy games that ensued. I saw some of the worse football I have ever witnessed under Poyet. Mind numbing football. He lacked imagination at times and was always cautious. He wasn't a gambler. He was frightened to unleash Vicente. He would rather play safe. He did well, steering us to fourth but that was with the best team in the division. We should have gone up automatically. ( certain other managers would have taken us up )
Poyet is self-centred and not that intelligent. He has an animal cunning but is a rather empty vessel. In his playing career he would drive teammates mad with his incessant talking and self-importance. I don't believe he is a listener and I don't believe he is learner. Why should he be...he knows everything already. His managerial career won't develop. He has peaked already. Basic gameplans, too rigid, too cautious.
Its an obvious no from me, for the above reasons, but above anything else, I felt that his behaviour, in his last few weeks here, was not befitting of a manager of BHA. He showed his true character and its a character I don't like. I don't like my club being held to ransom. I don't like my Chairman being held to ransom and I don't like my manager prostituting himself to a rival club, when he should have been concentrating on getting BHA promoted.
CH is a decent man, a good manager and an honourable one. Thats good enough for me.

Completely agree with this post. Best post on the thread!

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