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Russian jet shot down ,WW3 about to begin ?
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Blue Valkyrie
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It has been a credible theory for a while that Putin wants to prevent an alternative pipeline from Qatar to Europe to provide an easy alternative to Russian oil.
Man of Harveys
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Why would you need a pipeline when hundreds of vast ships are bringing oil from the Middle East to Europe and elsewhere every day, whether Putin likes it or not?
Blue Valkyrie
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Apparantly it would increase supply, and would provide the alternative to the russian source. Hence why Putin wants to keep Assad in power, or prolong the conflict, to prevent it.
- Apr 13, 2015
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Yes we will.
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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Depends whether you are fully comp or not
alfredmizen
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Because the Iranians could cause chaos by closing the straits of Hormuz pretty easily, you should know that FFS , you used to work for argus(not the brighton paper)
Blue Valkyrie
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Charlies Shinpad
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Reminds me of our Cold War days in our big black submarines going where we shouldn't be going
Man of Harveys
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Hmm, I'm not convinced I'm afraid. Unless this rumour is about natgas rather than oil, of which Qatar has a lot and which Russia supplies heavily into Europe.
daveinprague
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Mate of mine was on the Swiftsure that took pictures of the new Soviet Carriers (Kiev) propellers back in the day :-D
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It was a very sensitive region during the cold war....Turkey wanted protection...it's long sea and land borders with a huge tranche of the former Soviet bloc.....Bulgaria, Romania, Soviet Union,..thousands of miles of border ( land and sea)...meant that if not protected, Moscow could threaten western Europe through the eastern med via the black Sea and the southern straights.
Blue Valkyrie
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Maybe it is a potential gas pipeline rather than oil, I forget, it was a while back that this was mooted.
dingodan
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vegster
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Things calming down it would seem but it was denied that the Russian State Security Committee had been asked by Mr Putin to demand that Mr Putin take "serious action " for the shooting down, and that an edict had been issued to all Russian pilots to make sure their Garmin's had been updated recently.
dingodan
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If you are going to say Russia has denied X, you should really be including who was asserting X or where it came from.
The claim that "the Russian State Security Committee had been asked by Mr Putin to demand that Mr Putin take "serious action " for the shooting down, and that an edict had been issued to all Russian pilots to make sure their Garmin's had been updated recently." is pretty detailed, who said that? I've tried using google, but haven't found any mention of this, can you post a link.
Buzzer
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If you watch the excellent Robert Newman show about oil he explains that the First World War started because of a similar situation. The Germans wanted to complete a supply line that ran from Austria-Germany through the Balkans to Turkey and then Iraq that did away with the need for the Germans having to use the Suez Canal. They used the assassination of Franz Ferdinand as a pretext for cementing control of the area - a decision the British were not happy with at all. It was no coincidence that the place the first British troops were placed in WWI was Baghdad.
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