Massive v Huddersfield

Biscuit · May 17, 2017

Triggaaar said:
Have you got a link for that?
The definition I'm reading says "Words spoken over the air on television or radio are treated as libel (written defamation) and not slander on the theory that broadcasting reaches a large audience as much if not more than printed publications", so if it's not being televised, it's not a broadcast that's reaching a large audience.

I studied it as part of my degree, :thumbsup:

Slander is the threat of a single publication through a medium incapable of mass dissemination, longevity, or permanence - key word is incapable. If it's recorded it is capable of mass dissemination and it would be classed as libel. http://defamation.laws.com/defamation-laws/libel-vs-slander

Wozza · May 17, 2017

Rhodes refused take a penalty? 10mil well spent...

dazzer6666 · May 17, 2017

Weststander said:
Wa**er made enemies of others too, think Monk.

But the Owis acted as if they were CL winners last year after knocking out an Albion team with unprecedented injuries and missing DS due to an injustice.

Karma at Wembley last year and now the icing on the cake.

The cherry on the icing on the cake being Boro going down [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

Weststander · May 17, 2017

dazzer6666 said:
The cherry on the icing on the cake being Boro going down [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

Some horrible clubs in the Championship next season, about 10 entitled fanbases, believing their destiny is to be MASSIVE.

Can only end in tears for most of them.

Weststander · May 17, 2017

Posted tonight on owlstalk. They mention their legendary home play off game against us last May.

"It was a nervous crowd tonight, and that transferred to the pitch, especially towards the end and during the penalties.

All day I saw posts and comments from fans saying how nervous they were and how they were feeling sick, etc. I think that went on too much and made everyone too nervous instead of excited.

There wasn't the continuous legendary 'wall of noise' we had against Brighton last season and it showed in the performance on the pitch. Last season it was the crowd that carried the team through that game and were the extra man. We were all awesome for a while after our goal and for that time Huddersfield were at sixes and sevens struggling with the atmosphere against them, but it died down too quickly.

And we just weren't intimidating enough during their penalties and didn't take advantage of kicking at the Kop end.

Carlos and the team have all said time and time again the fans are the 12th man and make the difference - we need to live up to that like we absolutely can if we're in this position again next season (heck, throughout the whole season as we go for automatic!!)."

Is it PotG? · May 17, 2017

Northwich, 'Boro, Sunderland, Daarby, The Villa, Massive, Enormous Champions of the World Leeds, 'Ull and the Wemberlee losers. Gonna be a fun League next year, might watch it if I can stay awake for C5 after MOTD.

Dick Head · May 17, 2017

Triggaaar · May 18, 2017

Biscuit said:
Slander is the threat of a single publication through a medium incapable of mass dissemination, longevity, or permanence - key word is incapable. If it's recorded it is capable of mass dissemination and it would be classed as libel. http://defamation.laws.com/defamation-laws/libel-vs-slander

Why have you quoted a US site?

You say the key word is 'incapable', but that doesn't match the article you've quoted. For example, it the article says "It is unclear at this point whether the transmittal of defamatory statement over the internet constitutes libel or slander" (although I would imagine they're libel). You can't say that statements over the internet are 'incapable' of mass dissemination, so I don't see evidence that that is the key word.

If members of the crowd make defamatory remarks, and the only video evidence is that which the claimant records, then those videos aren't being published. Where such videos are published, the publisher of the videos could be drawn into the case as a defendant.

It's good to know that if the comments are recorded by the main broadcaster, then that's libel rather than slander, but if they're not, it still looks like slander to me.

Deleted member 22389 · May 18, 2017

Watched it last night on Sky, couldn't believe my ears when the commentator said the Premier League needs Sheff Wed, or something along those lines.

lawros left foot · May 18, 2017

bashlsdir said:
Watched it last night on Sky, couldn't believe my ears when the commentator said the Premier League needs Sheff Wed, or something along those lines.

Of course the Premier league needs Wednesday, it's barely been surviving without them for the past 15 years.

Djmiles · May 18, 2017

Is it PotG? said:
Northwich, 'Boro, Sunderland, Daarby, The Villa, Massive, Enormous Champions of the World Leeds, 'Ull and the Wemberlee losers. Gonna be a fun League next year, might watch it if I can stay awake for C5 after MOTD.

You mean stay awake for MOTD after the championship highlights?

Bwian · May 18, 2017

Bladders said:
Great entertainment.

Going to miss this division

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Careful.

Bwian · May 18, 2017

Herne Hill Seagull said:
Chortle.

Memories of gloating, barely coherent Wednesday fans at Falmer station last year spring to mind. Marvellous scenes.

And at Hillsborough that night in the semi final. Typical Yarkshire lack of grace. They make Man Utd fans look humble.

Elvis · May 18, 2017

£10 million striker Jordan Rhodes didn't want to take a penalty, according to reports.

BBassic · May 18, 2017

Weststander said:
There wasn't the continuous legendary 'wall of noise' we had against Brighton last season and it showed in the performance on the pitch.

'Legendary' ? Really?

Wilko · May 18, 2017

carlzeiss said:
http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/to...sfield-town-official-matchday-thread/?page=64

Ohhh, what a beautiful read that is. The bit of karma I liked was their player getting injured after two minutes and having to make a substitution. A small bit of payback for our dreadful luck last season and their mocking of our injuries.

Hillian1 · May 18, 2017

Owlstalk is a very, very good read on this fine Thursday morning.

Cheeky Monkey · May 18, 2017

Hillian1 said:
Owlstalk is a very, very good read on this fine Thursday morning.

Indeed:

'Been a fun 2 years but need a new man at the helm and just to go all out at auto next season.Play offs are for mugs.No Brighton or Newcastle to worry about next season.'

Who'd have thunk it. Massive worried about little old us.

hans kraay fan club · May 18, 2017

Superphil said:
Just a shame it wasn't Rhodes as well

Do you think?

I reckon that the fact they spent £10m on a striker, and he bottled even TAKING one, is even funnier than if he'd missed!

Biscuit · May 18, 2017

Triggaaar said:
Why have you quoted a US site?

You say the key word is 'incapable', but that doesn't match the article you've quoted. For example, it the article says "It is unclear at this point whether the transmittal of defamatory statement over the internet constitutes libel or slander" (although I would imagine they're libel). You can't say that statements over the internet are 'incapable' of mass dissemination, so I don't see evidence that that is the key word.

If members of the crowd make defamatory remarks, and the only video evidence is that which the claimant records, then those videos aren't being published. Where such videos are published, the publisher of the videos could be drawn into the case as a defendant.

It's good to know that if the comments are recorded by the main broadcaster, then that's libel rather than slander, but if they're not, it still looks like slander to me.

You're wrong, but I can see why you think that - it's a complicated issue. Put simply, if a defamatory comment is captured on any form of recorded media it's libel, not slander. Slander is only applied to the spoken word, it doesn't have the opportunity to live on past the one occurrence and thus carries a less severe punishment.

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