Baldseagull
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Indeed, you are unwilling to see.
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[Politics] Brexit
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Indeed, you are unwilling to see.
- Jan 3, 2012
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That's hardly the point. If we had made the effort, with our enormous administrative skills all those years ago, to do the job properly, we should have been able to see through a smooth transition. Instead it saw the mass migration of some 10,000,000 people and the death in riots and so on of up to a million people, ALL OF WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED!
It takes a special kind of ignoramus not to acknowledge this with all the coverage of partition at the moment.
JC Footy Genius
Bringer of TRUTH
- Jun 9, 2015
- 10,568
I wish you lot would stop banging on about the Empire ... I'm getting quite teary eyed
GT49er
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.............and hindsight's so infallible, isn't it.........
Partition was the perceived wisdom at the time. No, it didn't work out well - and it didn't in Ireland either - but both the sub-continent and Ireland are hotbeds of religious and sectarian conflict and hatred (which is nothing to do with the British Empire - or anything else apart from the conflict and hatred intrinsic in the populations of both places) so bloodshed was a real possibility anyway.
Of course, what some people conveniently forget (especially if they want to have a pop at our history) is that nobody has any idea how many would have died if we HADN'T opted for partition. ALL OF WHICH COULD ALSO HAVE BEEN MILLIONS. We'll never know.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
I think you could have done a better job with your numbers.Very easy to claim things without a shred of evidence.Perhaps you could have mentioned the fact that more British soldiers died of disease than Boers for a bit of balance,but then,no you wouldn't.The mau-mau war was a terrible conflict,with both sides competing to deliver the worst atrocity.But you would probably excuse one side as freedom fighters,not murdering terrorists.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
What is that supposed to mean?If you have a problem with me,take it to PM if you are scared of the mods.If you have a problem with the good work of the British Council,then you are stupid.Or is it just the British part you don't like?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
It takes a special type of ignoramus to make a comment like that,without adding to the discussion in any way.What's up,you buffoon?Banned from all the other threads,so come to crayon on this one?
I never realised your agenda was to support any foreign control of a nation.......still better to lie down than die.
Thank odd all the massive Brexit uestions are sorted. Now they can focus on the details. https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/898637705504018432
- Jan 3, 2012
- 16,566
I am - and it's probably obvious - not an expert on the matter.......
......... but one of the programmes about it the other night indicated that they put a capable civil servant on the job, but who had no expertise on the Indian situation, and he had about a week to sort things out. If it was realised to be such a big potential problem, perhaps we could have taken just a bit more care over it. If we had spent months planning things carefully and made serious efforts to minimise any fallout and then it still all went wrong, then fair enough, but...........
pastafarian
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So no NSC interlocutors were called murderers after all, thought so, I had a suspicion you were making it up.
pastafarian
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Have a kitkat.
Did you ever find what mechanism it was that you said we could use to control and reduce the numbers of EU seasonal workers(ie those that are working/in employment), you sort of went a bit quiet about it, I presume you just forgot to share.
Baldseagull
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**** me, firstly it is not true that more Brits died of disease than Boers, and secondly if you wish to add them in to the story, it just adds to the death toll of Britains Empire building.
About 13000 British soldiers died from disease and 7000 in combat. The total of British dead was less than the number of Boer children alone that died in concentration camps.
There was another 14000 "Blacks" that also died in the camps.
I would not excuse any force that committed atrocities, but one side was fighting for freedom.
We can stop those coming without work and why would we want to stop those coming to work? We have record employment levels and historically low unemployment. Imagine if we stopped people coming who then employ lots of other people from home and abroad. What happens? Oh yes. Employment down and unemployment up and lower take on taxes and higher cost in benefit. We get poorer. It is effing stupid.
Look at the level of immigration from outside the EU which is even easier to control. Do we? No. the reason? Because on balance we benefit from open borders. But they speak different and god forbid some even look different.
No robust evidence that immigration suppresses wages and people say our public services are stationed. That is despite the contribution this immigrants make who are nett contributors to society. Go for a stroll around your local hospital and listen to the staff, how many are British? Look at performance data for school kids....the worst group (apart from travelers) are white disadvantaged kids. The highest performing kids are those from immigrant backgrounds who have a far smaller group between disadvantaged and non disadvantaged kids. The country NEEDS these kids to stay and be our workforce of the future.
nicko31
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Yes it wasn't pretty, wished there was more education in school about the British Empire and its legacy on the world today, there's a lot that could be learnt from it
Lincoln Imp
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- Feb 2, 2009
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You famously silly person. You are unable to deny - because it's true - a whole series of offensive low rent name calling but instead concentrate on the fact that the person you (completely falsely) brand a murderer was not actually someone posting on this thread.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
