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[Football] Letting ourselves down



Icy Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
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Confess it was a small upside to the defeat for me to see that Palace had lost :shrug:
 




Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
There are some very bad losers on here these days.
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Drove home last night and heard one fan say on the radio......." its not a bad day, Palace lost "
Dear oh dear oh dear.....every sinew in my body was screaming with frustration....why can't some people forget about Crystal Palace for one tiny millisecond of their lives and concentrate on what really matters ( although, it appears that the only thing that matters to them is Crystal Palace ) and that is talking about our game, our performance, how we were set up, changes we made, mistakes we made, plus points, negative points, improvement, are we moving forward?, could we have done better etc etc.
There is only one thing that I concentrate on and that is BHA. When I leave games, I am consumed by what I have just seen and that is all I want to talk about and think about. Yesterday, all the talk in the car was about Liverpool and BHA. Comparison, discussion and to some extent a degree of disappointment that, in a fairly tight game, we had a glimmer of hope of getting something against a very good side but had come up a little short in ambition and creativity. Cue....that comment.....cue....car full of groans....cue....realisation that fans are leaving our ground whooping and hollering in delight that Palace had lost.
I hate losing any game and yesterday, despite fairly low, pre-match expectations, I was still hurting at the end. Rivalry is fine, obsession to the exclusion of everything else, isn't. I suppose I should realise that I am fighting a losing battle but wouldn't it be agreeable to have one minute/hour/day/week on NSC when a mention of ' Palace ' doesn't crop up.
Palace are directly below us so it does matter

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Uncle Spielberg

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Jul 6, 2003
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The day I stop caring whether we won, drew or lost, yes I know it was Liverpool, blah,blah,blah is the time I will stop bothering to go

Losing a game is NEVER good and I can never accept it is

The Scousers deserved all the " banter " they got, coming to our patch and lording it all over us, or trying to, team and fans

That is my take on it anyway
 








Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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There are some very bad losers on here these days.

It’s come with being in the PL. An expectation by some of beating them, then crying their eyes out through keyboard hatred when their dreams are cruelly shattered.

When we faced Liverpool and others in cup games whilst we were in the Championship, the hatred by some was short lived. It now drags on for a week before a match and forever afterwards.

Thankfully the clearly unhappy souls are just a handful. Otherwise we’d just be another Boro, who have a fanbase of primatives universally condemned on NSC.

Bizarrely, it’s selective. When the recently proven racist/homophobes/anti-Semites of Chelsea visit, threads die very quickly, even after they abuse Albion fans. Bizarre.
 








Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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What about SNOWFLAKES who put people on IGNORE and then CRY about it every chance they have ???
They are MELTS.

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Southern Scouse

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Jul 21, 2011
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After the game I didn’t even bother to read the comments as I thought I knew what the majority would say....Overall I thought it was one of the worst games I have seen this season by either club and a draw would have been a fair result.
I saw the penalty, and it was a penalty because the ref gave it, and I saw a defender make several attempts at getting the ball from a tricky, skilful player, from behind in the box. If it had been VVD on on muzza it would have been a penalty so what’s the fuss about?
Anyway, a result that the Reds really needed, and BHA can be extremely proud off.
 


Nixonator

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After the game I didn’t even bother to read the comments as I thought I knew what the majority would say....Overall I thought it was one of the worst games I have seen this season by either club and a draw would have been a fair result.
I saw the penalty, and it was a penalty because the ref gave it, and I saw a defender make several attempts at getting the ball from a tricky, skilful player, from behind in the box. If it had been VVD on on muzza it would have been a penalty so what’s the fuss about?
Anyway, a result that the Reds really needed, and BHA can be extremely proud off.

There has been zero fuss about the penalty. There's hardly been any fuss about the result.

However, if you watched the full 90+mins yesterday and didn't notice a not-so-sutble bias regarding all the small decisions, particularly on both touchlines, then you're wearing blinkers.

It's nothing against Liverpool specifically, I've witnessed it to a lesser degree when we have played the other "big 6".
 




Southern Scouse

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Jul 21, 2011
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There has been zero fuss about the penalty. There's hardly been any fuss about the result.

However, if you watched the full 90+mins yesterday and didn't notice a not-so-sutble bias regarding all the small decisions, particularly on both touchlines, then you're wearing blinkers.

It's nothing against Liverpool specifically, I've witnessed it to a lesser degree when we have played the other "big 6".

If that’s true I’m pleasantly surprised. I just went through the replies on my Reds forum for the post match and it amazing. Friend has been and as a rule a bad ref for the reds and the majority of comments were pro BHA, rubbish game and the fact that the ref let so much go.... two sides to every coin...
 


One Teddy Maybank

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If that’s true I’m pleasantly surprised. I just went through the replies on my Reds forum for the post match and it amazing. Friend has been and as a rule a bad ref for the reds and the majority of comments were pro BHA, rubbish game and the fact that the ref let so much go.... two sides to every coin...

Sorry, but then that is ridiculous.

The penalty was spot on, but that is it. Haven’t seen that level of big team bias in a long time.

Friend though, was a distant third compared to the linesman who both were staggeringly incompetent.

Liverpool, great team, deserved winners, brilliant movement, but they didn’t need the additional help they received throughout the game....


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PILTDOWN MAN

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Sorry, but then that is ridiculous.

The penalty was spot on, but that is it. Haven’t seen that level of big team bias in a long time.

Not since the days of Fergie at Old Trafford. How many penalties awarded to the away teams during his tenure? Oh and play until Utd score.
 


Nixonator

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Feb 8, 2016
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If that’s true I’m pleasantly surprised. I just went through the replies on my Reds forum for the post match and it amazing. Friend has been and as a rule a bad ref for the reds and the majority of comments were pro BHA, rubbish game and the fact that the ref let so much go.... two sides to every coin...

Well, even our manager commented on it. If you know Chris Hughton then that should tell you all you need to know.
 




Weststander

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If that’s true I’m pleasantly surprised. I just went through the replies on my Reds forum for the post match and it amazing. Friend has been and as a rule a bad ref for the reds and the majority of comments were pro BHA, rubbish game and the fact that the ref let so much go.... two sides to every coin...

I was aware before the game that Friend was disliked for shockingly one-sided performances and key eras by many sets of fans including Liverpool. But not Brighton who I think had fared well with him before. Now we’ve joined that club. The remarkable thing about yesterday was a shocking linesman or two too - maybe not the dozens of ‘biased’ decisions that’s being exxagerated, but some key errors. Personally I don’t think it robbed Brighton of a famous result. Just saying Friend & his colleagues are poor. He set the tone for the day, as I said on other threads, with his Little Dictator monologues to Dunk and Duffy. The best refs barely get noticed.
 


Guinness Boy

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I don't mean the team. Yesterday we gave an excellent account of ourselves against one of the better teams currently playing in the world. We were never embarrassed, overrun or made to look second rate. If ever there was a moment when I have though 'and exhale - this is going well' since we moved into the Amex, that moment was yesterday.

However, when I pop on NSC today what do I see?

People talking about half and half scarves as if this is the start of the slippery slope and the end of civilisation as we know it.

People consumed with hatred for hub-cab stealing self-pitying scousers who (nudge nudge) deserve blame rather than sympathy for Hillsborough

People who swear they once saw yesterday's ref frolicking with Klopp in a 1970s german gay porn film

People who think that Salah is simply an Islamic version of haha, and should be shot

People......exhale, relax, get over it. You're letting yourselves down, your club down and your families down with such tin-pottery, division three-style anger and status-envy. :lolol:

Much as I normally agree with you, and find you the voice of all that is reasonable on here, a few things.

Firstly half and half scarves are the devils work and should be burned along with their chavvy sub-Delboy sellers. I'd make the sale of them punishable by transportation to Syria and the wearing of them only allowed when accompanied by a dunces hat and a sign that says "I am massively clueless about football" just in case any younger fans were tempted to get one. It's not necessarily an anti-tourist thing. We have so many STHs they can't really get in the North and dilute the atmosphere and, when you need to pay what we pay, anyone's coin is acceptable. But I've BEEN a football tourist and I didn't find it necessary to get a half and half scarf. I got my son a scarf for the team he was supporting (Barca). He's nearly as crazy about them as he is Brighton and the only thing wrong with it is that it's the "wrong" colour :lol: . If you want a memento of the day get your butt in to the offical club shop and purchase a scarf that will identify you as understanding the purpose of football, as well as giving us cash towards players instead of a market trader fuel in his nicked Jag.

Secondly the referee and linesmen were shocking yesterday in their big club bias. There's no hangover or bitterness about it. They got the penalty spot on but got a crucial offside when Locadia could have scored wrong and another where Murray could have set up a chance. And every 50-50 went to the big club. Every. Single. One.

Lastly, I thought we played extremely well and that's a massive positive. Salah is Salah and he's very good at what he does. That he only did us once speaks volumes for our defending and organisation. But when a big six team feel the need to feign injury to cheatingly defend a 1-0 lead, and when our calling out of them leads their left back to call our Family Stand - kids FFS - f***ing c***s, then I'll take exception with them all day long.

Great performance by us though and we'll stay up with a tankful to spare.
 



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