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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?

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Pretty pink fairy

Pretty pink fairy

Banned
Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Simster said:
Not really, I rarely come on here anymore. What is the point? It's not like you actually want to engage in debate like a grown-up. I've said it before though, your boorish, dull, bone-headed stupidity is as incredible as it is depressing.
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debate ???, all i see are people throwing personal insults around and speculating on a Democratic result that see's the country leaving the EU, no point in getting all down in the dumps , chin up
regards
DR
 














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Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
JC Footy Genius said:
I completely understand that some extremist loons would prefer the UK to become a Vassal state rather than see the UK make a clean break and forge a new role in the world.
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M'mmm... I'd rather have neither. But I see what you're saying. Somersaulting out of the world's largest trade network, a network covering 98 countries with more on the way, will certainly have an effect on our role in the world.
 


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portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,606
portslade
Plooks said:
So any economical or other uncertainty caused by brexit has had NO affect here? That is what you are saying, to be clear.
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Not in these cases no. The move to internet shopping however has. Please read what they report when announcing closures. Some don't even have websites so lose trade even more so
 


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Raleigh Chopper

New member
Sep 1, 2011
12,054
Plymouth
Not read through all of today's argument about internet shopping, but I was of the understanding that a lot of the high street businesses that have gone pop did so because they were far to slow to jump on the internet shopping bandwagon or their website was very poor or both, a lot of people also have strange habits whereas they see some shops as somewhere not to buy online and some they would automatically go online to.
Amazon is now one of those things you automatically go to and they have done a huge amount of damage to the high street.
Can't see that brexit has much to do with it at this stage.
New Life or a grand plan needs breathing into the high street and quick.
 




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jaghebby

Active member
Mar 18, 2013
300
Raleigh Chopper said:
Not read through all of today's argument about internet shopping, but I was of the understanding that a lot of the high street businesses that have gone pop did so because they were far to slow to jump on the internet shopping bandwagon or their website was very poor or both, a lot of people also have strange habits whereas they see some shops as somewhere not to buy online and some they would automatically go online to.
Amazon is now one of those things you automatically go to and they have done a huge amount of damage to the high street.
Can't see that brexit has much to do with it at this stage.
New Life or a grand plan needs breathing into the high street and quick.
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I don't think its just the Internet to blame. What about out of huge shopping malls like the Westfield's, Blue Water and Trafford Centre of this world. Then there are the smaller versions such as Churchill Square, County Mall that have an effect. Also the big out of town super stores that draw people away from the high streets. People who want to revive the high street are trying to turn back the clock rather like brexit to some rose tinted perceived golden age. The world has moved on since those days and the "high street" as it used to be is largely history!
 


Mental Lental

Mental Lental

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Jul 5, 2003
2,272
Shiki-shi, Saitama






Westdene Seagull

Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
20,993
The arse end of Hangleton


Westdene Seagull

Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
20,993
The arse end of Hangleton
Plooks said:
See. You said the internet is not the sole reason. So is brexit one of the reasons?
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FFS .... no it isn't. READ what I said are the reasons .... one is the internet. Do you play dumb on purpose or is it real ?
 


Dorset Seagull

Dorset Seagull

Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
Feb 21, 2009
4,426
Shaftesbury Dorset ( Hovis hill to you )
I will be closing my retail outlet at the end of the year to concentrate solely on online mail order. I am not on a high street because we are specialist and people travel to us, however, less people are coming and more are buying online. The rising costs of labour to stand around serving nobody and the rise in business rates make it a no brainer. You could say that Brexit is partially responsible because we import most of our product and exchange rates have affected us but during the early days of Brexit I renegotiated with suppliers to mainly cover any downside.

I personally don’t blame Brexit for the change in our business model but the lack of people attending retail and buying online. I realise this is a straw poll of 1
 




Westdene Seagull

Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
20,993
The arse end of Hangleton
Plooks said:
So rising rent and costs etc? That IS party due to brexit!
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Errr ..... no. Rents and rates have been high well before Brexit. How the hell would Brexit have influenced those two costs ?

OK, you don't believe me, or Portslade or the experts - now read the post below yours - maybe you'll believe a trader !
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,465
The Fatherland
Westdene Seagull said:
Errr ..... no. Rents and rates have been high well before Brexit. How the hell would Brexit have influenced those two costs ? !
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Brexit is costing the country billions. Rates bring in around 30 billion a year. If you want a few quid extra what do you think might happen? Think you can work this one out?
 




Westdene Seagull

Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
20,993
The arse end of Hangleton
Herr Tubthumper said:
Brexit is costing the country billions. Rates bring in around 30 billion a year. If you want a few quid extra what do you think might happen? Think you can work this one out?
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Rates are based on a property value and property values are re-assessed every five years. The formula for calcualting the amount of rates due hasn't changed and therefore the rates haven't gone up to fund Brexit as you imply, they've gone up as property values increase. As property values tend to increase faster than many traders can increase their profits traders have been squeezed - in many cases into going bust. I'd post a graph but we all know you struggle to read and understand a graph.
 






Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,465
The Fatherland
Westdene Seagull said:
Rates are based on a property value and property values are re-assessed every five years. The formula for calcualting the amount of rates due hasn't changed and therefore the rates haven't gone up to fund Brexit as you imply, they've gone up as property values increase. As property values tend to increase faster than many traders can increase their profits traders have been squeezed - in many cases into going bust. I'd post a graph but we all know you struggle to read and understand a graph.
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This is only part of the story though.

1) They were recalculated last year.
2) There is relief available for certain businesses.

Now. If you want to raise more money you can tweak both of these.....as they did last year.

PS As for the graph comment....anymore lip from you and I’ll get my lawyer friend onto you. He will send you a cease and desist....in PDF form of course.
 


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