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[Brighton] More Falmer NIMBYism (contains bats)



Gwylan

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https://planningapps.brighton-hove....ils.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=PEXYSMDMGNP00

And, yes, it's about the bats

"4.18 Moderate Roosting for Bats, I understand an approved application is needed for a licence, if planning goes ahead, it is dependent upon this, as is the question of the Great Crested Newt and its protection. "

Is there a village in England with a higher NIMBY quotient? No wonder we couldn't get the hotel built.
 


The Clamp

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https://planningapps.brighton-hove....ils.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=PEXYSMDMGNP00

And, yes, it's about the bats

"4.18 Moderate Roosting for Bats, I understand an approved application is needed for a licence, if planning goes ahead, it is dependent upon this, as is the question of the Great Crested Newt and its protection. "

Is there a village in England with a higher NIMBY quotient? No wonder we couldn't get the hotel built.

Obviously Im glad we got Falmer but people need to stop looking at everything from a BHA point of view . Non BHA fans live in Falmer and quite rightly didn’t want a dunking great stadium on their doorstep. I don’t blame them. If you’re not a football fan the stadium doesn’t offer much for anyone else. They have held 2 concerts and a Jehovas Witness beano once a year. Hardly much for non footy fans to get their teeth into.
Yes, I’m glad we got Falmer but I’m not sure I’d want it on my doorstep if I didn’t support BHA.
 
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Thunder Bolt

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Obviously I don’t anger Falmer but people need to stop looking at everything from a BHA point of view . Non BHA fans live in Falmer and quite rightly didn’t want a dunking great stadium on their doorstep. I don’t blame them. If you’re not a football fan the stadium doesn’t offer much for anyone else. They have held 2 concerts and a Jehovas Witness beano once a year. Hardly much for non footy fans to get their teeth into.
Yes, I’m glad we got Falmer but I’m not sure I’d want it on my doorstep if I didn’t support BHA.

This application refers to the two cottages by the station and is nothing to do with the stadium. Falmer lost out when Brighton University was built, followed by being split in two for the bypass.
 


Notters

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Obviously I don’t anger Falmer but people need to stop looking at everything from a BHA point of view . Non BHA fans live in Falmer and quite rightly didn’t want a dunking great stadium on their doorstep. I don’t blame them. If you’re not a football fan the stadium doesn’t offer much for anyone else. They have held 2 concerts and a Jehovas Witness beano once a year. Hardly much for non footy fans to get their teeth into.
Yes, I’m glad we got Falmer but I’m not sure I’d want it on my doorstep if I didn’t support BHA.

-Rugby World Cup
-Wedding Fairs
-Tool show
-Car show
-Various conferences (I went to the Sussex Air conference).
-Sussex diagnostics centre
 


The Clamp

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This application refers to the two cottages by the station and is nothing to do with the stadium. Falmer lost out when Brighton University was built, followed by being split in two for the bypass.

I know what it refers to thanks. I was replying to the assertion that Falmer is full of Nimby’s.
 




The Clamp

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-Rugby World Cup
-Wedding Fairs
-Tool show
-Car show
-Various conferences (I went to the Sussex Air conference).
-Sussex diagnostics centre


Fair enough, quite specialised events though. Rugby aside.
 


Chicken Run

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IIRC most planning applications for New Build Property in Semi and Rural locations have to have environment reports such as this! I’m certain bat reports have to be done in a certain part of the year too!
 








Birdie Boy

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Fair enough, quite specialised events though. Rugby aside.
Just because you don't have a wedding (fayre) this year and need marital aids (tool show) with a classic car (car show) to take you to the church and then need a plane (air conference) to take you on honeymoon, you think these events are specialised?
:D
 


father_and_son

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-Rugby World Cup
-Wedding Fairs
-Tool show
-Car show
-Various conferences (I went to the Sussex Air conference).
-Sussex diagnostics centre

Absolutely... it's a sports stadium, there is a limit to what can actually happen there but this list doesn't mention the games that have been there for the women and youth sides and the number of private corporate events they host on non-match days.


The stadium is absolutely as non-intrusive as it could possibly be... it neighbours other large buildings (the various uni buildings and the fitness centre) rather than being on a residential street. The public transport links are closer than the nearest houses so almost all local residents don't have thousands walking past the end of their gardens.

What *some* people seem to forget is that the country needs buildings other than homes. We do need office blocks and factories, airports and train stations, recreational and entertainment centres... these have to be close to where people live otherwise we live with ridiculous traffic requirements, long commutes and pollution from thousands of cars ferrying people from their "housing-only" estates to shops and work places and places to eat and socialise.

We can be clever in how these are built and what they look like but we cannot pretend that we don't need them or that somebody has to live next/near them... even f**king Daily Mail readers.
 




FIVESTEPS

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When they applied for planning permission for the hotel a vociferous opponent of the stadium opposed the hotel because it spoilt his view of the stadium.
 


Gwylan

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Obviously Im glad we got Falmer but people need to stop looking at everything from a BHA point of view .

I'm not really looking at it from a BHA point of view (although it does have implications for the proposed hotel) but I'm fed up with objections when anything is planned in B&H.

According to the City Plan, we have to build enough to accommodate, I think, 20,000 more people by 2030 (can't be bothered to look up the exact details but it's a significant number) and the universities are struggling to find places for students to live. It makes perfect sense to build an accommodation block near the universities, otherwise the students will take family houses in town (adding to the traffic along Lewes Road).

These people have to go somewhere but whenever a new development is planned, out come the NIMBYs in force.

And Falmer has the worst: the stadium has obviously benefited the city, the planned hotel would have been an asset and we need more houses. Are we going to have this with every development?
 


Chicken Run

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I'm not really looking at it from a BHA point of view (although it does have implications for the proposed hotel) but I'm fed up with objections when anything is planned in B&H.

According to the City Plan, we have to build enough to accommodate, I think, 20,000 more people by 2030 (can't be bothered to look up the exact details but it's a significant number) and the universities are struggling to find places for students to live. It makes perfect sense to build an accommodation block near the universities, otherwise the students will take family houses in town (adding to the traffic along Lewes Road).

These people have to go somewhere but whenever a new development is planned, out come the NIMBYs in force.

And Falmer has the worst: the stadium has obviously benefited the city, the planned hotel would have been an asset and we need more houses. Are we going to have this with every development?

Does Falmer fall under Brighton & Hove planning then?
 



















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