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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,743
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
It's free movement.

Quite. So this proposal tonight on 'Labour mobility' is presumably a good deal. Therefore if The EU reject it and because it's not a bad deal, it's a good deal agreed by all the cabinet, it's surely not a case of no deal being better than a bad deal anymore, it's just a case 'Oh *** it, lets just keep Freedom of Movement because it's exactly the same'.
 




ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,743
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Even Michel Barnier's reaction seems tentatively warm to tonight's developments from rural Buckinghamshire.

[tweet]1015331604846260230[/tweet]
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,493
Haywards Heath
Well if they are, they are 2 years too late

Exactly, the day after the vote we should've started building extra facilities at the ports, advertising for civil servants.
It doesn't help your your negotiating hand when the PM and chancellor resign, the government loses its majority and does f**k all for 2 years, it doesn't exactly scream out "we mean business" :lolol:
 








The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,445
West is BEST
Oh dear oh dear oh dear. A few on here with big ****ing Ostrich's egg on their faces tonight.
 






ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,743
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
Rees-Mogg has apparently told ERG members via WhatsApp not to go public with their views tonight but talk to him first.
 






Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
We're not leaving

May’s plan has been leaked in full:

Single market - full alignment for goods via Treaty with nuclear clause.
No services in the hope she can avoid FOM.

Customs union to be put in place after implementation period, officially a backstop and to stay in place until border technology can facilitate a max fac / customs partnership setup (likely to be never). This needs to be signed off as ready by the UK and the EU.

ECJ jurisdiction for all areas covered but via a arbitration tribunal consisting of ECJ and SC judges.

Reported by several sources as well as the Times (paywall).
Ir's a bit disappointing that they are not including services with goods.

Hopefully that will be agreed in the negotiations.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
After all that the Brexiteers are going to make us the EUs bitch by the looks of it.

Exactly. Still abiding by all the rules, but with no say at the table, in setting the rules, and costing billions more.

What a shambles.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
24,445
West is BEST
Exactly. Still abiding by all the rules, but with no say at the table, in setting the rules, and costing billions more.

What a shambles.

Which is what those with any sense could see before the vote. I know several family members and a couple of friends who are very keen to leave the EU but voted remain because they could see the mess it would become. We weren't wrong. Anyone with half a brain cell could have seen this coming a mile off. We ain't leaving the EU, we are becoming their tenant.
 








Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The BBC told David Attenborough to keep quiet, but he's determined to speak out anyway. When did the Tories take over the BBC?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...ugh-brexiteers-probably-dont-understand-facts

In a video interview with Greenpeace's investigative and news platform, Unearthed, the 91-year-old broadcaster and naturalist compared Brexit to "spitting in each other's faces" and called the referendum "an abrogation of parliamentary democracy" because of a lack of facts.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Which is what those with any sense could see before the vote. I know several family members and a couple of friends who are very keen to leave the EU but voted remain because they could see the mess it would become. We weren't wrong. Anyone with half a brain cell could have seen this coming a mile off. We ain't leaving the EU, we are becoming their tenant.

The problem is that we are trying to have our cake and eat it, with these proposals, so I expect the EU to say no.
 


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