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[Brighton] Daily am rush hour trains Brighton to London Bridge



Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
23,858
Sussex
Need to get one for a week or two.

Just checking and it seems there is only ONE direct train now ..... which takes 1hr20mins !!!

Numerous others that take 1hr15 - 2 hours that also involve 1 change.

Any regular commuters know why/when this changed ?

Must be messing up loads of people. Used to be an hour tops / direct didn't it.
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
52,006
Burgess Hill
Need to get one for a week or two.

Just checking and it seems there is only ONE direct train now ..... which takes 1hr20mins !!!

Numerous others that take 1hr15 - 2 hours that also involve 1 change.

Any regular commuters know why/when this changed ?

Must be messing up loads of people. Used to be an hour tops / direct didn't it.

Must be due to Thameslink now starting trains from Littlehampton I guess ? Bizarre reduction in service though for city to city..........
 


Jul 7, 2003
8,571
Must be due to Thameslink now starting trains from Littlehampton I guess ? Bizarre reduction in service though for city to city..........

I'm told by several people who use the LB trains along the coast that the move to Thameslink has been universally unpopular having taken away their nice old trains for those new tube train style things with small, uncomfortable seats (if you can get one).

Watching the Portillo thing on BBC2 last night, the bloke from Thameslink said that they were designed to be able to handle large volumes of people when travelling through London - like a tube train. Bet those who have to spend 90 minutes each way on these things really appreciate that.
 


Lush

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Need to get one for a week or two.

Just checking and it seems there is only ONE direct train now ..... which takes 1hr20mins !!!

Numerous others that take 1hr15 - 2 hours that also involve 1 change.

Any regular commuters know why/when this changed ?

Must be messing up loads of people. Used to be an hour tops / direct didn't it.

Presumably not enough demand to fill a train from Brighton and not enough trains to run separate stopping ones to pick up commuters from Hassocks etc.
 


dazzer6666

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Mar 27, 2013
52,006
Burgess Hill
I'm told by several people who use the LB trains along the coast that the move to Thameslink has been universally unpopular having taken away their nice old trains for those new tube train style things with small, uncomfortable seats (if you can get one).

Watching the Portillo thing on BBC2 last night, the bloke from Thameslink said that they were designed to be able to handle large volumes of people when travelling through London - like a tube train. Bet those who have to spend 90 minutes each way on these things really appreciate that.

Yes, they have plenty of room (no carriage separation, and seem wider - more standing room - due to narrower and fewer seats) and the seats are very uncomfortable and badly designed (in the window seats, your foot space is partly occupied by heating ducts). Odd though that I now have a much wider choice of direct trains from my small local station (Wivelsfield) than someone from Brighton.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,265
unless you need to be actually at London Bridge, have you considered going to Victoria and a tube onwards?
 


TWOCHOICEStom

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2007
10,546
Brighton
Yes, they have plenty of room (no carriage separation, and seem wider - more standing room - due to narrower and fewer seats) and the seats are very uncomfortable and badly designed (in the window seats, your foot space is partly occupied by heating ducts). Odd though that I now have a much wider choice of direct trains from my small local station (Wivelsfield) than someone from Brighton.

Oh, YOU'RE the passenger who lives there! I've often wondered why every train I've ever got in my life stops there to have nobody get off, now I know! :lolol:
 






Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
23,858
Sussex
unless you need to be actually at London Bridge, have you considered going to Victoria and a tube onwards?

that doesnt really work but is certainly an option if need be.

Outrageous really . Amazed haven't seen mass protests . Like all these things , people just accept it.
 


Sirnormangall

Well-known member
Sep 21, 2017
2,937
that doesnt really work but is certainly an option if need be.

Outrageous really . Amazed haven't seen mass protests . Like all these things , people just accept it.

Another option might be a Thameslink to Blackfriars or City if that’s near to where you need to get to.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
23,708
GOSBTS
Must be due to Thameslink now starting trains from Littlehampton I guess ? Bizarre reduction in service though for city to city..........

I used to be a Worthing to London Bridge commuter getting the early morning services. Is this the case now then? I'd be horrified if I couldn't get my hour nap in those uncomfortable seats !
 




Saunders

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Oct 1, 2017
2,292
Brighton
I used to commute to London Bridge from Brighton about 10 years ago and the 50 minute train usually took at least 1 hour 10 minutes so this does not surprise me. I am surpised it isnt even longer considering the work they are doing rebuilding London Bridge.
 


nordicgod

Top banana
Jul 21, 2011
885
polegate
Just make sure you get in first class at rear of the train as it’s declassified , you get a table and a plug socket , whoop whoop
 


ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,180
Just far enough away from LDC
Presumably not enough demand to fill a train from Brighton and not enough trains to run separate stopping ones to pick up commuters from Hassocks etc.

Its not that. Basically the new thameslink rolling stick cant be joined en route. Its a 12 car unit. They have to run the 2 trains in the morning from worthing to lb contractually so thats what has been put in. The brighton to blackfriars or victoria routes are deemed to be enough contractually
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
52,006
Burgess Hill
Its not that. Basically the new thameslink rolling stick cant be joined en route. Its a 12 car unit. They have to run the 2 trains in the morning from worthing to lb contractually so thats what has been put in. The brighton to blackfriars or victoria routes are deemed to be enough contractually

Is it only 2 ? Thought there used to be far more direct Brighton to LB trains than that........
 


ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,180
Just far enough away from LDC
Is it only 2 ? Thought there used to be far more direct Brighton to LB trains than that........

Theres two from worthing. From brighton there is one at 5.40ish one at 6 and another at 7.32 direct.

Allegedly when the lb building work is finished there will be more....i dont have faith that will happen
 


dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
52,006
Burgess Hill
Theres two from worthing. From brighton there is one at 5.40ish one at 6 and another at 7.32 direct.

Allegedly when the lb building work is finished there will be more....i dont have faith that will happen

How many were there previously? Thought it was at least two per hour from 5.30-8 am........I currently get a TL to LB at 6.04 at Wivelsfield which must start in Brighton....assume the 5.40.
 






ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,180
Just far enough away from LDC
How many were there previously? Thought it was at least two per hour from 5.30-8 am........I currently get a TL to LB at 6.04 at Wivelsfield which must start in Brighton....assume the 5.40.

There used to be (many years ago) 2 per hour at 5, 6 and 7 and then up to 4 per hour from 9am
 


jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
3,940
There used to be (many years ago) 2 per hour at 5, 6 and 7 and then up to 4 per hour from 9am

There did used to be 4tph to Bedford via London Bridge but 2 were re routed to go via Herne Hill and Elephant & Castle since the London Bridge Improvement works thus avoiding London Bridge completely, and the two that weren’t terminate at London Bridge and don’t continue to Bedford.
 



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