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Fiscal Failings from Labour Again



wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
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It seems that Steptoe is not even trying to tell us that Labour have learned from their past. And just who would pay for this ridiculous bribe? Somebody else of course. If it was a plan for one or even two extra days then perhaps it might be seen as a good thing, but FOUR? The man is a fool.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39682388

Oh, and the minimum wage rising to ten pounds per hour. Why not limit the working week to 25 hours whilst you are about it Jezza, and lower retirement age to 55? :facepalm:
 
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Raleigh Chopper

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Sep 1, 2011
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You are so up your own backside about Labour and protecting your beloved Tories that it is the first thing you think about on a Sunday morning and put it on a football forum.
You must be either lonely or deranged.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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"£1,640,000,000,000: That's the record debt now owed by Britain"

And Hammond wants to borrow even more. Sadly there won't be an EU to bail you out when this goes tits up.

Tories, can't be trusted with the economy.
 


wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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Or sitting in bed with the missus watching breakfast news?
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

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May 12, 2009
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The tories have no right to lecture on fiscal responsibility. Your lot have nearly trippled national debt and have broken every one of their financial manifesto promises.
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
"£1,640,000,000,000: That's the record debt now owed by Britain"

And Hammond wants to borrow even more. Sadly there won't be an EU to bail you out when this goes tits up.

Tories, can't be trusted with the economy.

Seeing as we are hovering around the 8th highest DEBT/GDP ratio within the EU,further we are the 2nd (sorry-WAS) the 2nd highest contributor to the EU coffers,i think in years to come you may be right (see in bold).
 




Biscuit Barrel

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Jan 28, 2014
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I can see the point in having your country's saints day as a national holiday. Not sure why each of the 4 UK countries can't just have their own saints day as a holiday (or is that the proposal and i have not understood it properly?). Not sure the Scot's would want to celebrate St Georges day.
 






Biscuit Barrel

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Jan 28, 2014
2,392
Southwick
"£1,640,000,000,000: That's the record debt now owed by Britain"

And Hammond wants to borrow even more. Sadly there won't be an EU to bail you out when this goes tits up.

Tories, can't be trusted with the economy.

I understand your desire to stay in the EU with regards to free movement of people and human rights. I do not understand your stance that the EU is some kind of economic safe house.

Spain, Greece, Portugal, Ireland and Italy (to name just a few) have all had huge financial issues and disgusting levels of unemployment.

The economy was the main reason I voted leave.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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That would be similar to the bailout the EU did with Greece? No thanks.

When Hammond has finally run out of spending other people's money who will he turn to then?
 




attila

1997 Club
Jul 17, 2003
2,244
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The bankers caused the crisis in 2008. Let them pay for it. And people voted for Brexit despite dour economic forecasts, which proves they don't care what the City says anyway. Screw the casino bankers' gambling deficit. Decent elderly & hospital care, decent schools, minimum wage of £10, end to zero hours contracts, proper taxes on the rich to pay for it all, renationalise the railways and utilities (without compensation in the case of Southern Rail.) And we're out of the EU soon so Brussels won't be able to interfere. Go Jezza.
Make June the end of May!
 
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larus

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When Hammond has finally run out of spending other people's money who will he turn to then?

What is it with the lefties? Are they really totally economically illiterate?

First, they moan about austerity (which, by the way, we haven't had in the UK contrary to popular belief), then, because the government has kept the level of public services high (NHS, education, benefits, pensions, etc.), they then moan about the level of debt.

The level of deficit (not debt which is an accumulation) was f*cking high because of the total, incompetence of the last Labour administration (which didn't reduce national debt during the realtive boom years in the early 2000's). So, when the recession happened, there was no real safety net and the deficit shot up. The deficit has been reducing, but of course, until there is a SURPLUS then the debt will keep increasing.

SO, please can these SUPER INTELLIGENT (yeah, right) lefties advise what should be cut IMMEDIATELY to reduce the deficit and to start to reduce the national debt.
 






glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
What is it with the lefties? Are they really totally economically illiterate?

First, they moan about austerity (which, by the way, we haven't had in the UK contrary to popular belief), then, because the government has kept the level of public services high (NHS, education, benefits, pensions, etc.), they then moan about the level of debt.

The level of deficit (not debt which is an accumulation) was f*cking high because of the total, incompetence of the last Labour administration (which didn't reduce national debt during the realtive boom years in the early 2000's). So, when the recession happened, there was no real safety net and the deficit shot up. The deficit has been reducing, but of course, until there is a SURPLUS then the debt will keep increasing.

SO, please can these SUPER INTELLIGENT (yeah, right) lefties advise what should be cut IMMEDIATELY to reduce the deficit and to start to reduce the national debt.

bankers wages might be a good start
 


barchetta

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Mar 21, 2016
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It wasn't labour that is about to take 3 more billion out of schools.
It wasn't labour that took 4 billion out of social care and then puts 1.5 billion back and says its is fixed. ( it won't be going where it is needed but back to affluent areas).
It wasn't labour that wants to take 22 billion out of nhs.
It's wasn't labour who said they would balance the budget by 2015, then 2020 then give the target up whilst borrowing more money than every labour government previously.
It's not labour that has overseen the largest increase in food banks in the uk.
It's not labour that through benefits sanctions has killed vulnerable citizens yet continues this practice.
It's not labour that thinks by cutting benefits to the disabled will get them back into work.
It is the Tories that have reduced taxes to the rich and continue to accept large organisations with foreign tax arrangements to continue whilst small business owners have increasing business rates and struggle to survive.
 


The Spanish

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Aug 12, 2008
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The bankers caused the crisis in 2008. Let them pay for it. And people voted for Brexit despite dour economic forecasts, which proves they don't care what the City says anyway. Screw the casino bankers' gambling deficit. Decent elderly & hospital care, decent schools, minimum wage of £10, end to zero hours contracts, proper taxes on the rich to pay for it all, renationalise the railways and utilities (without compensation in the case of Southern Rail.) And we're out of the EU soon so Brussels won't be able to interfere. Go Jezza.
Make June the end of May!

Plenty of people in the City are pro brexit, the bankers are not a cabal unconnected to our world, look at the normal people pouring off trains at London Bridge and Liverpool Street every morning, who make decisions, live with us, vote brexit at times. It's not a private eye cartoon with people smoking cigars, this 50's view of the City that prevails in some quarters is massively unrealistic
 


GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
I suppose when £10/hour minimum wage come in,in order to attract drivers,coach companies that currently pay their drivers £10/hour or more,will have to offer £13/hour or more.....

I also assume that those that cannot afford to run a car and currently make use of coach travel will have their fares increased to pay for the wage rise of the drivers,or am i to assume that many coach drivers will seek the easy life filling supermarket shelves (i have done that job btw)..

For the record i am not a coah driver..
 






sjamesb3466

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Jan 31, 2009
5,182
Leicester
What is it with the lefties? Are they really totally economically illiterate?

First, they moan about austerity (which, by the way, we haven't had in the UK contrary to popular belief), then, because the government has kept the level of public services high (NHS, education, benefits, pensions, etc.), they then moan about the level of debt.

The level of deficit (not debt which is an accumulation) was f*cking high because of the total, incompetence of the last Labour administration (which didn't reduce national debt during the realtive boom years in the early 2000's). So, when the recession happened, there was no real safety net and the deficit shot up. The deficit has been reducing, but of course, until there is a SURPLUS then the debt will keep increasing.

SO, please can these SUPER INTELLIGENT (yeah, right) lefties advise what should be cut IMMEDIATELY to reduce the deficit and to start to reduce the national debt.

Stop selling off profitable government owned companies/infrastructure such as the UK's share of EuroStar would be a start. How the Conservative government think that selling our share in a business that is making money year on year for a one off quick buck is a catastrophic economic policy and a prime example of the Tory ideology of privatisation. Selling Royal Mail for way below it's market value was a cracker too. They used the fact that it was losing money as the reason for selling however the moment it was sold stamp prices doubled. Well why couldn't that happen as a state owned business so the country could benefit from long term profit which would in turn help bring down the deficit, oh yeah it was because they all made a quick buck on it themselves and we are left high and dry
 



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