Lewis Dunk

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Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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Do those two yellow cards count towards his accumulation or does the fact that he's suspended wipe them clean?

I suspect it's the latter, but you never know with the FL
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Do those two yellow cards count towards his accumulation or does the fact that he's suspended wipe them clean?

I suspect it's the latter, but you never know with the FL

I think it's the latter too, but [MENTION=3018]Peter Grummit[/MENTION]t (sp) did set up a suspensions thread, which hasn't appeared of late, but has one dominant performer, stealing the stage
 




sparkie

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Jul 17, 2003
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First yellow counts I think. Second yellow is wiped off from the total by the suspension ? ??? ???
 




Finchley Seagull

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Feb 25, 2004
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First yellow counts I think. Second yellow is wiped off from the total by the suspension ? ??? ???

That is right. It's a bit ridiculous as they both count towards the red card so it is better to get a straight red for a professional foul or handball on the line (with a one game ban) than two yellows. To me they should both be wiped off the booking count
 




1066familyman

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Jan 15, 2008
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So to clarify...is that now two yellows to count towards the 5 that will result in a 3 match ban?
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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One other thing to bear in mind is that Dunk refused to leave the subs/managers area and go down the tunnel for a fair bit of time. He might get a charge for that.
 


Jimmehh

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One other thing to bear in mind is that Dunk refused to leave the subs/managers area and go down the tunnel for a fair bit of time. He might get a charge for that.

I doubt it - he was talking to the 4th Official, didn't look like he was arguing or anything, and didn't get force down there. Can't see it myself
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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So to be clear...

1. He's had 12.
2. But as one of those was the second last night it doesn't count.
3. So, he's really on 11.
4. The next ban comes at 15, when he'll miss 3 games.

Is all that correct?

If so, with 17 games for him to play in, it feels more like "when" than "if" that long ban comes, doesn't it?
 


mreprice

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Sep 12, 2010
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So to be clear...

1. He's had 12.
2. But as one of those was the second last night it doesn't count.
3. So, he's really on 11.
4. The next ban comes at 15, when he'll miss 3 games.

Is all that correct?

If so, with 17 games for him to play in, it feels more like "when" than "if" that long ban comes, doesn't it?

Yes it does. Which was the main reason why the deliberate tenth one may not have been a good idea.

What is the latest date the long ban can start? Can it include (heaven forbid) the playoffs?
 


Bozza

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Yes it does. Which was the main reason why the deliberate tenth one may not have been a good idea.

What is the latest date the long ban can start? Can it include (heaven forbid) the playoffs?

From what I can see (a cached version of a FA page on suspensions) there is no cut-off - it runs to the very end of the season.
 


AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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First yellow counts I think. Second yellow is wiped off from the total by the suspension ? ??? ???

That is right. It's a bit ridiculous as they both count towards the red card so it is better to get a straight red for a professional foul or handball on the line (with a one game ban) than two yellows. To me they should both be wiped off the booking count

So to clarify...is that now two yellows to count towards the 5 that will result in a 3 match ban?

So to be clear...

1. He's had 12.
2. But as one of those was the second last night it doesn't count.
3. So, he's really on 11.
4. The next ban comes at 15, when he'll miss 3 games.

Is all that correct?

If so, with 17 games for him to play in, it feels more like "when" than "if" that long ban comes, doesn't it?

Yes it does. Which was the main reason why the deliberate tenth one may not have been a good idea.

What is the latest date the long ban can start? Can it include (heaven forbid) the playoffs?

From what I can see (a cached version of a FA page on suspensions) there is no cut-off - it runs to the very end of the season.


So much confusion about this, and unnecessarily so.

When a player receives two yellow cards in a match, and hence gets sent-off, NEITHER of the bookings counts towards the accumulation of yellow cards (he serves a suspension for the sending-off and THAT is the punishment for the bookings).

Dunk is still on 10 yellows in terms of the accumulation of cards towards a potential three-game ban for reaching 15 bookings in the season.
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Oct 4, 2003
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So with 17 games to go we need to start planning for Dunk to miss at least 6 of them (including this weekends games against Brentford). I still expect him to get 5 more yellows this season and I am sure he will be sent off at least once more which will be a minimum of a two game ban.
 


dangull

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Feb 24, 2013
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That's why I didn't agree with the deliberate late booking at Fulham. The 3 match suspension is more likely now than it would have been.
 


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