I got off at PP last year....took ages to exit the station !
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I got off at PP last year....took ages to exit the station !
I'd procrastinated for ages as to which Garmin to plump for. Whilst I was still debating they released their new range, so I went for the Forerunner 235. It has an in-built heart rate monitor. If you're not bothered about the HRM, you can save money and go for the 230.
My main reason for getting it was so I could have real-time pacing information which I didn't get with Strava on my iPhone, but it does all manner of fancy bits and pieces beyond that.
It's been on my wrist ever since I bought it - I don't wear a 'real' watch any more. There are a number of different watch faces you can quickly download from Garmin to suit your whims, and it does step counting and sleep monitoring. It nicely syncs to my iPhone and then Strava without me having to do anything.
I think [MENTION=31]El Presidente[/MENTION] has just gone 'top of the line' with the Forerunner 630, which is about £50 more than the 235. Comparison of the 230 v 235 v 630 here: https://buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/cat...5&compareProduct=529988&compareProduct=523893
Good news on your recovery. The initial back stretch is the basic yoga cat pose moving into the cow pose. Part of my routine but I will check out my body position to ensure I'm getting it right.
My maranoia is that my legs feel better than last 3 marathons. Relaxed without any tightness. I'm not used to that. My right side ITB after being pulverised pre Hastings has become more flexible than ever. I attribute it to you Downsmen getting me up on the hills for training. 18 days away from hills as training became course specific and I'm feeling great.
Still not getting on the 3:45 Preston Park Express but may jump on board between Boundary Road and the King Alfred.
Well aware of your slow plods so probably see you on the course.
Half Time Pies
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Thanks for this thats really helpful. I get 50% off garmin watches through my Health Insurance company so looks like it would be a good option.
The only bit I would be potentially interested in that the 630 offers over the 235 is the running dynamics as if it could help you correct your running technique then that could be really beneficial. Never know whether things like that just turn out to be gimmicks or not.
Does the heart rate monitoring seem reliable?
Great that you're back, hope to see you somewhere on Sunday.
Should be ok no bottom tier for Steve to try and lure me in to. Everyone's been told I'm on the lemonade.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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Sick of bagels already.
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Pie and a pint is a good night-before-a-race meal isn't it?
I bought the 630 with the HRM. It is an indulgence, but as a lover of stats, I enjoy downloading the data and reviewing it. Doesnt't make me a better runner, just a more informed one.
The 630 is what the Apple Watch should be, as it buzzes every time I have a message from Strava, FB,LinkedIn etc, so can discretely review those on my watch, AND it has GPS, unlike the Apple Watch.
Lactate threshold, suffer scores, recovery times, vertical oscillation info is fun for a while, as are the QI apps, but ultimately it's a damn good running watch. Racing against target times, and things of that nature do incentivise you to pace yourself slightly better.
How much ££
Pickledegg
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- Jul 13, 2012
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I don't have the original email and haven't received a copy!
Phoned them up and they said they are having a few IT issues but to just bring photo ID!
They assured me it won't be an issue!
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Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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if anyone's getting the train on Sunday be aware that SASTA have closed Preston Park station till 11am under police advice "due to safety reasons". They are running extra trains - but only to Brighton
I really don't see what the big fuss is. PP Station to PP - 0.5 miles; BTN Station to PP - 0.7 miles! Source: Google Maps
I saw her sat on the corner of a wall as I was struggling along that bit in 2014. She even gave me a shout, bless her...
Pickledegg
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Always had Garmin and always happy with them!
If you are serious about your fitness the Garmin 920xt is fantastic, albeit a tad pricey!
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£330 with HRM, about £265 without.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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I bought a 910 xt because it does swimming as well, no fancy coloured screen and a separate heart monitor required, its a bulky ******* as well. Certainly not one for casual wear!
Hearing about the 630 is making me jealous though, think I might know were a sizeable chunk of this years bonus is going towards.
Hearing about the 630 is making me jealous though, think I might know were a sizeable chunk of this years bonus is going towards.
As a lover of stats. would you share them with a tightwad who only has an old Forerunner 305? I have a query on the point the body stops being able to rid the lactic acid from the blood stream. For a marathon, training at this threshold is really important.
Do you do a test for lactate threshold using the Garmin or does it calculate using data from the runs of the last few months? The latter would be changing with any improvement or decrease in fitness.
Problem for me is I don't know if mine is 7:40 or 8:40. From the Hastings half I could say 7:40 but for threshold runs I stick to 8:15 to 8:40.
Is your lactate threshold in the 8:20 to 8:40 range?
I've only had the 630 a few days, so still building up the data to do the calculations.
I was fortunate. Brother in law owns a few horses. Advised me a couple were looking good. Second place at 11/2 followed by reinvesting the money on another at 14/1 paid for the 630.
It's a great piece of kit, no doubt overpriced but effectively only cost me £20.
Out of interact, are most NSC runners members of running clubs? If not would it be useful to set up our own club and affiliate to UKAA?
That way we'd benefit from (small) discounts on entry fees on races, which would pay for membership etc.
Could even go further and have our own colours for vests.
Any views?
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That way we'd benefit from (small) discounts on entry fees on races, which would pay for membership etc.
Could even go further and have our own colours for vests.
Any views?
Sent from Konnie Huq's lingerie drawer.
I've done an LT test......anything on a garmin will only be a rough estimate though. The test I did involved a blood sample every 3 minutes whilst on a treadmill at steadily increasing speed. The graph of lactic acid in the blood is quite startling when the threshold is hit - rises very rapidly (think of an elevation chart along the Adur and then up Truleigh Hill [emoji3]). Your 5k pace is about the same as mine so I'd imagine you LT would be similar - I can't find the report but it was 12.8kph I think so your 7.40 estimate of LT sounds about right.
Do you have your 6 training zone paces ? Strava gives you these based on a suitable race time (5k works). Your actual 'threshold' pace is breathing threshold not lactate though. My training zones (yours again will be v similar) based on a 20 min 5k are :
Recovery/ultra pace - >9.00
Easy - 8.06-9.00
Tempo - 6.57-8.05 (half - marathon pace)
Threshold - 6.31-6.57 (5-10k pace)
VO2 Max - 6.07-6.31 (800-1500m intervals)
Anaerobic - <6.06 (sprints)