Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Okay, sorry, that's a fair point. I should have said I had experience of this happening with people I knew many times.
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Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I totally disagree. We are saved from more immediate economic calamity by postponing it in a far greater measure further down the road. Our planet cannot sustain the kind of population growth we see in humanity. We are fairly rapidly leading a huge mass extinction at the moment and further humans with our destructive traits and appetites, coupled with climate change only hastens the inevitable.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I know of several families with five or six children. All the fathers are present, working, and most of the mothers also work part-time. One mother I know has qualified as a child minder, so looks after others' children as well as her own.
They contribute to the food bank in Whitehawk which is run by the Trussell Trust.
All generalisations are bad.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
The younger generation working is paying for the older ones like me. Pensions come from taxes. Stephen Fry produces a good graph in this video.
(warning it does also contain anti EU stuff) You can find it 2 mins 53.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
All generalisations are bad. I hope that's a joke, if so, i like it a lot!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
GT49er
Well-known member
First hand observation and experience is not 'anecdotal evidence'. I too have witnessed at first hand what Green Cross Code Man has observed. It happens; it is fact.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It happens, but it isn't the norm.
Where you have society, you have a vast spectrum of people and lifestyles. We can all find examples to match our beliefs.
I thought you were talking about the UK when you said 'our benefits' I think you'll find that there's not much in the way of housing or unemployment benefits in Africa or Asia.
I agree that population growth could be an issue in the future - although a lot of the problems are the levels of consumption - but there's a disconnect here, Western Europe does have the opposite problem - there aren't enough babies being born. Immigration is restoring the balance slightly and the UK is better off than some countries because of our high level of immigration but attempts to regulate that flow will cause problems in the future.
In another thread, I joke about Dixon of Dock Green and its 80-year old copper but, if the number of immigrants really is cut, that will be the reality in the future unless we start increasing our birth rate pretty soon
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Does that mean there is greater need now? Or that people are kindly now doing something about it. Surely that's a good thing?
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Sorry, I was digressing/rambling a little.
Yes it is - that's precisely what anecdotal evidence is.
It's a bit like saying that smoking is not for your health as I know two heavy smokers in my family who lived to their 90s: it's anecdotal evidence but not solid research
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I honestly don't know if it's the norm or not, but that statement could equally be written: We can always find examples that form our beliefs'.
brightn'ove
cringe
That is literally the definition of anecdotal evidence.
GT49er
Well-known member
I never said it was the norm. I stated that it happens, and that it is not uncommon. That is fact - I'm not making any generalisations or judgements, but I reserve the right to call out the people who pooh pooh the idea that it happens, claiming it's all just anecdotal evidence, or maybe some kind of urban myth. It isn't.
What is it when you add in the birthrate per male?
GT49er
Well-known member
No, anecdotal evidence is something you've heard, or what someone's said. What is observed is fact.
I myself knew two heavy smoking relatives who lasted until their 90s (well, one of them only to his 80s tbh). That is a fact. It is not evidence that smoking isn't harmful - and I've never suggested it was.
If I said, 'I've heard of lots of heavy smokers who lived into their 90s', that would be anecdotal.
It’s anecdotal evidence to me. In fact it’s the very definition imho.
You’re trying yourself up in a few knots here. It was the OP we are questioning, he stated “many”....based on his own very limited observations.
is easier.