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[Football] Mounie red card..(Hudds lodge - and lose - appeal)
- Thread starter Sheebo
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Just viewed the incident. It’s careless, wreckless and that’s a far amount of force on Bissouma’s shin. Clearly a straight red.
- Aug 7, 2003
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You win some, you lose some, referees aren’t perfect. Hughton can accept that but Wagner can’t. Wagner was incredibly childish at his interview. A proper boo boo didums performance.
HalfaSeatOn
Well-known member
Delighted with the ref’s harsh decision.
Yes, but in the post of yours I quoted you said straight reds are given for careless, reckless and excessive force. They are three different things, only one of which gets red.
"Careless”
means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making his challenge or that he acted without precaution
“Reckless”
means that the player has acted with complete disregard of the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent
“Using excessive force”
means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent
If I wasn’t clear, here is the law
https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf
Yes, that's where I got my definitions from. This is really confusing me.
You: You get a straight red for careless, reckless and excessive force
me: actually, you only get straight red for excessive force
You: you get a free kick for careless challenge, yellow for reckless, red for excessive force
me: yes, that's what I said, but you originally said you get a red for all three, but the three are different things, here's how the law defines careless, reckless and excessive force
You: here's the law...
The replay in this video IMO shows that it was a red card foul.
https://highlightsfootball.com/video/huddersfield-town-vs-brighton-hove-albion-highlights-2/#close
No where near the ball and the reckless challenge leaves impact/studs on shin/knee.
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
I think it was naughty. Just my instinctive gut reaction that you’d know you were leaving one on your opponent in that situation.
studio150
Well-known member
If the studs land on an oppentents shin above the shinpad then it must be a red card. The days of Copper Harris and Norman bites yer legs Hunter have long gone.
Yes, that's where I got my definitions from. This is really confusing me.
You: You get a straight red for careless, reckless and excessive force
me: actually, you only get straight red for excessive force
You: you get a free kick for careless challenge, yellow for reckless, red for excessive force
me: yes, that's what I said, but you originally said you get a red for all three, but the three are different things, here's how the law defines careless, reckless and excessive force
You: here's the law...
If you read the law about excessive force, you will see it implies the other two. The excessive force explanation states “in danger of injuring the opponent.” The wreckless explanation states “disregard to the danger to the opponent”. If you’re in danger of injuring someone you have shown disregard to the danger of the opponent. And disregard implies lack of attention and consideration which is the definition of careless. I think this is clear and they are not mutually different things which I think you're suggesting. That’s how I see it
Impossible to prove, but he meant it.
Stato
Well-known member
- Dec 21, 2011
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drew
Drew
I think some people don't think the games moved on since that pair!
Gazwag
5 millionth post poster
Wagner is whinging no red penalty red on the three decisions well **** him