[Football] Mounie red card..(Hudds lodge - and lose - appeal)

METALMICKY · Dec 2, 2018

Moving away from our game will be interesting to see how VAR will work next season and also wonder what guidelines the referees are given. Have just seen the the tackle by Vertonghen for which he got second yellow today and therefore went off. On closer examination are we going to get into the realms of ' phases of the tackle' ? Absolutely no problem with the spurs' player's initial tackle and the subsequent follow through for which he is penalised had no malice or intent and was as much to with the where the arsenal player put his leg. Also think this tackle phase could easily be applied to Dale Stephen's sending off t

KingKev · Dec 3, 2018

Plooks said:
They were both soft. But as long as referees are consistent then it is fine.

But they’re not. Last weekend there were three worse tackles than either Stephens’ or Mounie’s which all got yellows. The one by the achelsea lad was a horror tackle and the ref had a great view, but didn’t pull out a red.
And early season we had Arter (yellow) and Kenedy (no action) just kicking opponents - no consistency at all.

Kalimantan Gull · Dec 3, 2018

Herr Tubthumper said:
No. The ref doesn’t judge intent. The ref judges the incident with the criteria stated in the laws.

So if you tread on someone by accident and tread on someone deliberately they are both identical offences?

Wonder why the club bothered appealing Hemed's charge for stamping last year?

hans kraay fan club · Dec 3, 2018

METALMICKY said:
Moving away from our game will be interesting to see how VAR will work next season and also wonder what guidelines the referees are given. Have just seen the the tackle by Vertonghen for which he got second yellow today and therefore went off. On closer examination are we going to get into the realms of ' phases of the tackle' ? Absolutely no problem with the spurs' player's initial tackle and the subsequent follow through for which he is penalised had no malice or intent and was as much to with the where the arsenal player put his leg. Also think this tackle phase could easily be applied to Dale Stephen's sending off t

I thought the same about Vertongen's. Was pretty harsh - there was no 'intent' (yes, I know), there was no excessive force, and his foot never left the ground more than few inches. Worth remembering that he did only get a yellow for it, though - the daft handball earlier coming back to bite him.

You can't equate Stephens' red to that one though. Stephens really was out of control, and much as I believe it was an honest (and successful) attempt to win the ball - it is impossible to deny that he 'endangered the opponent'.

clapham_gull · Dec 3, 2018

Sorry if mentioned above, but they have appealed the red.

hans kraay fan club · Dec 3, 2018

clapham_gull said:
Sorry if mentioned above, but they have appealed the red.

Pointless appeal.

Every ref and ex-ref commenting over the weekend has deemed it 100% a correct call.

Dicks.

Machiavelli · Dec 3, 2018

hans kraay fan club said:
I thought the same about Vertongen's. Was pretty harsh - there was no 'intent' (yes, I know), there was no excessive force, and his foot never left the ground more than few inches. Worth remembering that he did only get a yellow for it, though - the daft handball earlier coming back to bite him.

You can't equate Stephens' red to that one though. Stephens really was out of control, and much as I believe it was an honest (and successful) attempt to win the ball - it is impossible to deny that he 'endangered the opponent'.

This is as good a summary of the Stephens' red as we've had.

hans kraay fan club · Dec 3, 2018

Machiavelli said:
This is as good a summary of the Stephens' red as we've had.

Not that I didn't shout at the ref when he brandished it, obviously...

Four points from the first two games of Dale's ban, have taken the edge off it a little.

Machiavelli · Dec 3, 2018

hans kraay fan club said:
Not that I didn't shout at the ref when he brandished it, obviously...

Four points from the first two games of Dale's ban, have taken the edge off it a little.

I thought we never picked up points when Stephens isn't playing :jester:

Stat Brother · Dec 3, 2018

There must have been at least a couple of yellow cards handed out in this montage:-

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Bozza · Dec 3, 2018

Machiavelli said:
I thought we never picked up points when Stephens isn't playing

File that with: "Dale Stephens never gives the ball away".

Cozzy · Dec 3, 2018

taken a rough guess from all the pundits and especially refs who have given an opinion on the game it must be 75% think was a red and that includes two ex-refs so I dont see the FA changing it

The Large One · Dec 3, 2018

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Gwylan · Dec 3, 2018

Stat Brother said:
There must have been at least a couple of yellow cards handed out in this montage:-

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There are some beauties there: some of them remind me of my playing days :lol:

southstandandy · Dec 3, 2018

Might not be 'excessive force' but still dangerous play. We would have laughed at even a booking back in the 80's but in this modern non contact sport that football has become Uddersfield have no chance. Should increase it by 1 game for frivolous appeal. Sory, that's just how it is.

hans kraay fan club · Dec 3, 2018

Apparently, 14 games into the season, and between them Huddersfield's recognized strikers have more red cards than goals :thumbsup:

Bozza · Dec 3, 2018

hans kraay fan club said:
Apparently, 14 games into the season, and between them Huddersfield's recognized strikers have more red cards than goals

I said it on another thread but that bloke they brought on looked nothing like a footballer, let alone a Premier League striker. They must be shitting it, if that's what they're left with.

hans kraay fan club · Dec 3, 2018

Bozza said:
I said it on another thread but that bloke they brought on looked nothing like a footballer, let alone a Premier League striker. They must be shitting it, if that's what they're left with.

I didn't see it. Did he look like a second rate RnB artist?

Weststander · Dec 3, 2018

Hudd and Mounie will lose.

Mounie endangered the safety of an opponent with studs up, no where near the ball, impacting the knee/upper shin and drawing blood.

Cadiz Seagull · Dec 3, 2018

This place will erupt if Hudds win an appeal!

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