[Politics] Vegan hardline communists

BLOCK F · Nov 26, 2018

Mustafa said:
A lot of people still don't, but if you look at the act of meat eating objectively - having millions of animals suffer and slaughtered for no other purpose than to satisify our taste buds, at the detriment of both the environment and the economy - it's difficult to think of a counter argument as to why it isn't immoral.

I'm a meat eater and I believe that I am weak and carrying out an immoral act by eating meat. I love food, my favourite meals are all meat based. However I would fully support the outright ban of meat eating in an instant - it is the right thing to do.

Ha, good luck with 'an outright ban on meat eating'.
I know a certain section of the population approve of banning anything they don't agree with, but I reckon an outright ban wouldn't even go down too well with some of the more weird inhabitants of weird old Brighton.
If you feel that strongly, you can always cease your 'immoral' behaviour and stop eating meat, forthwith. You don't need a law to stop; or perhaps you do!
Why should your extreme views be made into a law that would certainly not be acceptable to the vast majority of people in the country?

Pogue Mahone · Nov 26, 2018

Pogue Mahone · Nov 26, 2018

banjo said:
Isn’t eating meat part of a balanced diet, or I’m I not in trend now??

It can be, but doesn't need to be. I eat a balanced diet, but don't eat meat.

Thunder Bolt · Nov 26, 2018

timbha said:
I certainly don’t regard eating meat as immoral. Don’t plants have a life?

What I do take exception to is the anarchic behaviour of some vegans trying to force their beliefs on law abiding others

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 26, 2018

wellquickwoody said:
I would bet a pound to a penny that every one of those protestors would either not vote 'cos it is irrelevant', or note vote cos 'it achieves nothing', vote Corbyn, or vote Green (trendy Labour). They also believe that Utopia (Communism) can actually work.

I’d bet a pound to a penny you’re a tiresome and tedious right wing bore with little imagination.

Thunder Bolt · Nov 26, 2018

Plants are living organisms, so you kill them by eating them.

zefarelly · Nov 26, 2018

The day its outlawed is probably the same day there's a power cut, your air con cuts out and you roast to a crisp in blistering heat ( 55c will be normal) . . . . once medium rare, a giant crocodile from the melted down Hinkley point power station will stroll by and eat you for lunch.

Mustafa said:
If I stopped eating meat, it wouldn't stop the suffering and slaughter of millions or billions of animals, sadly. I would be surprised if it even saved one.

I do feel strongly about animal welfare, but I'm not suggesting that we should ban meat eating (yet) - although I would support it, if there was a realistic chance of it happening.

I predict that it will one day be outlawed, and probably regarded as a barbaric act of the past, once synthetic meat become a viable alternative in the future.

Pogue Mahone · Nov 26, 2018

Thunder Bolt said:
Plants are living organisms, so you kill them by eating them.

Well, obviously. The moral argument is clearly about whether those living organisms are sentient.

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 26, 2018

So, to quote the owner

“They didn’t do anything aggressive but it was a bit annoying.”

Not quite the fascists forcing their beliefs on others then? I’d say the customers of this West Street establishment will suffer far more annoyance from the knobheads they encountered on their journey to and from restaurant than what happened inside.

zefarelly · Nov 26, 2018

a sausage Sentinal?

Pogue Mahone said:
Well, obviously. The moral argument is clearly about whether those living organisms are sentient.

happypig · Nov 26, 2018

I heard a phone-in on the radio years ago, they were discussing the morality of eating meat and this old guy rang in and said "If God didn't intend us to eat meat, why did he make it taste so nice ?"

Pogue Mahone · Nov 26, 2018

zefarelly said:
a sausage Sentinal?

Eh?

banjo · Nov 26, 2018

Pogue Mahone said:
It can be, but doesn't need to be. I eat a balanced diet, but don't eat meat.

what I think I was getting at is, we all have a choice what we eat. I have plenty of meat free days, but also enjoy eating meat. Good for you though. I just don’t think I couldn’t give up bacon. :drool:

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 26, 2018

happypig said:
I heard a phone-in on the radio years ago, they were discussing the morality of eating meat and this old guy rang in and said "If God didn't intend us to eat meat, why did he make it taste so nice ?"

Bit like the “If we weren’t meant to eat animals, why are they covered in meat?” Gag.

Pogue Mahone · Nov 26, 2018

banjo said:
what I think I was getting at is, we all have a choice what we eat. I have plenty of meat free days, but also enjoy eating meat. Good for you though. I just don’t think I couldn’t give up bacon.

You don't think you couldn't? Have you started supporting Ipswich?

Yep, we all have a choice. My wife and two sons eat meat, I don't. The biggest annoyance to me is that it means I have to cook two separate meals...

Westdene Seagull · Nov 26, 2018

Herr Tubthumper said:
So, to quote the owner

“They didn’t do anything aggressive but it was a bit annoying.”

Not quite the fascists forcing their beliefs on others then? I’d say the customers of this West Street establishment will suffer far more annoyance from the knobheads they encountered on their journey to and from restaurant than what happened inside.

Have you watched the video ? If I'd been a customer and had to put up with that for 30 minutes as suggested in the story then I'd be escorting them off the premises. I struggle to believe you'd put up with it while nibbling on your rabbit at Cin Cin !

Thunder Bolt · Nov 26, 2018

Pogue Mahone said:
Well, obviously. The moral argument is clearly about whether those living organisms are sentient.

Eggs are natural. A cow will give milk, as will a goat. Obviously with intense production the bull calves are sent for animal food or veal, but people owning one cow or nanny goat are not causing the animal any suffering by drinking their milk or making cheese and butter.
Vegans will tell you different.

brakespear · Nov 26, 2018

Mustafa said:
A lot of people still don't, but if you look at the act of meat eating objectively - having millions of animals suffer and slaughtered for no other purpose than to satisify our taste buds, at the detriment of both the environment and the economy - it's difficult to think of a counter argument as to why it isn't immoral.

I'm a meat eater and I believe that I am weak and carrying out an immoral act by eating meat. I love food, my favourite meals are all meat based. However I would fully support the outright ban of meat eating in an instant - it is the right thing to do.

Also the amount of extra vegetable-based food that could be produced if the land used for rearing livestock was given over to it. But I am just as guilty, also feel really bad for the animals, if I don't like seeing our pets in distress then why should I be happy for other animals to be killed? I may try vegetarianism again in the New Year but couldn't be a vegan and give up cheese

Herr Tubthumper · Nov 26, 2018

Westdene Seagull said:
Have you watched the video ? If I'd been a customer and had to put up with that for 30 minutes as suggested in the story then I'd be escorting them off the premises. I struggle to believe you'd put up with it while nibbling on your rabbit at Cin Cin !

I genuinely don’t think I’d have an issue if they popped into Cin Cin. Whilst never in a restaurant, I have been inconvenienced by many demos/strikes etc over the years and I have survived. I’d rather people express themselves.

banjo · Nov 26, 2018

Pogue Mahone said:
You don't think you couldn't? Have you started supporting Ipswich?

Yep, we all have a choice. My wife and two sons eat meat, I don't. The biggest annoyance to me is that it means I have to cook two separate meals...

I see what you did there.

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