[News] Met Police and Scooter tactics.

Psychobilly freakout · Nov 24, 2018

timbha said:
NO. Blame the little sh**s that are committing the crimes.

Can’t go on blaming everyone except the people who are responsible.

What would you prefer, heavier taxes and a police state, or less crime?

Exactly, A criminal is a criminal and will do what they are going to do, despite who is in power, a quick easy buck.

I guess by this token you could blame the Tory government during the war for the exploits of Frankie Fraser and the like stealing left, right and centre from warehouses, shops, and bombed out homes..... If only they would have been more jobs available, and all the able policemen were not off fighting for his freedom to carry on stealing, Frankie would not have to have done what he did.............

Yeah right, all the Governments fault....

portlock seagull · Nov 24, 2018

Springal said:
The problem is these criminals until now knew that if they were pursued on a moped the police likely wouldn’t get authorisation to carry on the pursuit. And even more so if they didn’t have a helmet on.

How would you tackle this crime which is a big problem?

Cheese wire

Psychobilly freakout · Nov 24, 2018

portlock seagull said:
Cheese wire

Rusty Cheese wire

Paulie Gualtieri · Nov 24, 2018

Having seen first hand what these mugs do to people it’s a yes from me

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Worried Man Blues · Nov 24, 2018

Thank heavens they are mopeds and not Lambrettas, had me worried for a moment

Two Professors · Nov 24, 2018

Can they start stabbing knife wielders,as well! :thumbsup:

Psychobilly freakout · Nov 24, 2018

Worried Man Blues said:
Thank heavens they are mopeds and not Lambrettas, had me worried for a moment

This, although a Vespa man myself. If Ernest had his way, no more two's up to a rally !!!

Worried Man Blues · Nov 24, 2018

Psychobilly freakout said:
This, although a Vespa man myself. If Ernest had his way, no more two's up to a rally !!!

Used to park my SX 150 outside the Goldstone and watched it from the top of the Chicken run in case it was nicked

jcdenton08 · Nov 24, 2018

Just got to add to the near universal agreement in this thread, apart from a few obvious trolls as usual. At least they are amusing trolls and very obviously are dissenting for effect.

It’s one of those where it’s extremely hard to put forward a strong argument against the practice. Criminal commits theft. Is chased persuant to an arrest. Evades arrest, while putting their lives, the lives of other civilians and the police officers at risk. They have a chance to stop and explain their innocence. Instead they ignore warnings, flee the police, and put other - more important - lives at risk. The police are fully 100% in their rights to stop dangerous criminals.

Absolutely no arguments from anyone with a lick of sense.

Psychobilly freakout · Nov 24, 2018

Worried Man Blues said:
Used to park my SX 150 outside the Goldstone and watched it from the top of the Chicken run in case it was nicked

Used to park mine opposite Wigan Police Station where all the police parked their cars, and would go to Wigan Pier Alternative night and ride home pissed, thinking that I would never get stopped becasue no one would be that stupid.... It worked, I was a nipper back then though, and realise how stupid & lucky I was.

Tubby-McFat-Fuc · Nov 24, 2018

Southern Scouse said:
I know I’m going to get flamed, but as an ex PO, this is wrong for so many reasons.
I’ve read every post until now and not one seems to think this practice is absurd.
Very strange, and somewhat worrying.

Off course you will get flamed and you deserve to.

Maybe if you say why you think this practice is absurd and very strange, then may see your argument and not flame you.

Tubby-McFat-Fuc · Nov 24, 2018

Stat Brother said:
Ridiculous absolutely psychotic behaviour by the police.
Christ almighty sure the moped rider shouldn't have nicked the handbag/purse whatever, but it's only a bloody crappy piece of pointless 21st century consumerist tat.
Hardly worth paralyzing or god forbid killing a young lad who's made a wrong choice more than likely because he's been let down by the country who should be protecting unfortunates like him.

tehe

Why is it psychotic.

All I would say is publicise the hell out it. So if the little shits know this is going to happen, and continue to use mopeds for crimes, then they do so knowing the likely outcome.

Up to them then isn't it.

Stat Brother · Nov 24, 2018

Whooooosh.

maffew · Nov 24, 2018

Stat Brother said:
Whooooosh.

Just took a bit longer than expected

Paulie Gualtieri · Nov 24, 2018

Stat Brother said:
Whooooosh.

Lake record

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Shropshire Seagull · Nov 24, 2018

Stat Brother said:
Hardly worth paralyzing or god forbid killing a young lad who's made a wrong choice more than likely because he's been let down by the country who should be protecting unfortunates like him.
tehe

Nah! Disagree, injury falling off a moped is most likely to be just a dose of gravel-rash which is not too dissimilar to a public flogging.

Its a yes from me ....

The Rivet · Nov 24, 2018

Would love to be an albion supporting copper tonight in one of those cars. Frustration would be greatly dissipated......... :lolol:

Southern Scouse · Nov 25, 2018

Tubby-McFat-Fuc said:
Off course you will get flamed and you deserve to.

Maybe if you say why you think this practice is absurd and very strange, then may see your argument and not flame you.

When I joined the Police I swore an oath that has as it’s primary obijective “ To protect life”.
It dies not say “Who” to protect, just to Protect life. That includes everyone including those who are victims and perpetrators of crime, who are always considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, what’re ever the crime be it murder, theft, BOP or theft of a motor vehicle. The sentence is based upon the crime with or without a jury. The severity of the crime is based on written law. I do not believe in an eye for an eye. Causing an accident that could cause significant injury or death, before a proper trial has been presented to confirm a crime has been committed by the subject of an attack by excessive force, car vs moped, seems to me to be far in excess of standard police powers.
I am in no way apologising for any type of criminal behaviour but this in my view is not the way our laws should be used.
I also wonder about the mental state of any officer If they were the in a fatal road collision with a stolen moped teenager using a vehicle as what could be construed as a leathal weapon.
I believe that any crime should be dealt with using the full legal use of police powers and our courts.
Asking PO to ram moped riders in order to stop them would seem to be an affront to our legal system.

rigton70 · Nov 26, 2018

Southern Scouse said:
When I joined the Police I swore an oath that has as it’s primary obijective “ To protect life”.
It dies not say “Who” to protect, just to Protect life. That includes everyone including those who are victims and perpetrators of crime, who are always considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, what’re ever the crime be it murder, theft, BOP or theft of a motor vehicle. The sentence is based upon the crime with or without a jury. The severity of the crime is based on written law. I do not believe in an eye for an eye. Causing an accident that could cause significant injury or death, before a proper trial has been presented to confirm a crime has been committed by the subject of an attack by excessive force, car vs moped, seems to me to be far in excess of standard police powers.
I am in no way apologising for any type of criminal behaviour but this in my view is not the way our laws should be used.
I also wonder about the mental state of any officer If they were the in a fatal road collision with a stolen moped teenager using a vehicle as what could be construed as a leathal weapon.
I believe that any crime should be dealt with using the full legal use of police powers and our courts.
Asking PO to ram moped riders in order to stop them would seem to be an affront to our legal system.

So you want gangs of moped riders terrorising London?

I don't give a shit what tactics the old bill use as long as they bring down the criminal alive.

They break a arm lose a leg tough effin shit.

arkan · Nov 26, 2018

rigton70 said:
So you want gangs of moped riders terrorising London?

I don't give a shit what tactics the old bill use as long as they bring down the criminal alive.

They break a arm lose a leg tough effin shit.

I think the point is that using this tactic; the chances of bringing down a criminal ALIVE are considerably diminished.

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