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[News] Sarah Payne killer Roy Whiting stabbed in prison



Weststander

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They certainly murdered someone.

I detest what Whiting did, but I cannot cheer other murderers attacking someone, or that makes me out to be sick, too.

Perhaps it’s a raw, aggressive emotion for (many) men, to feel vengence towards entities like Whiting? I feel this. The same for me where I’ve read of unplanned and summary killings of senior SS murderers at liberated extermination camps.
 




colinz

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What if it were your child, still think the same ?


Probably yes, because you'd have empathy for the families of the 2 murderers victims.
 




Tim Over Whelmed

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Perhaps it’s a raw, aggressive emotion for (many) men, to feel vengence towards entities like Whiting? I feel this. The same for me where I’ve read of unplanned and summary killings of senior SS murderers at liberated extermination camps.

.... and the same way a group targeted a paediatrician around the same time as this terrible murder!
 




Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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They certainly murdered someone.

I detest what Whiting did, but I cannot cheer other murderers attacking someone, or that makes me out to be sick, too.
Quite. I'd accept this warm feeling as normal from anyone connected to Sarah Payne, but the rest of us should probably recognise who the people doing the attacking are. Glad he hasn't been killed though, I'd like his misery to continue.
 










blue-shifted

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The logical side of me thinks that in a civilised society criminals should be safely looked after when in prison. The less logical side of me is siding with the comments above. A long life of constant fear seems to be as fair a punishment as it's possible to give
 


Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
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Yes. How does more violence make someone feel better?

Yes, I see your point to an extent. If it were my daughter, then I would probably be cheering from the rafters, but do also think that if we condone other criminals dishing out their perverted version of justice, then we are on a slippery downhill slope. We can't believe in the rule of law, and then when it suits, look the other way.
 




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They certainly murdered someone.

I detest what Whiting did, but I cannot cheer other murderers attacking someone, or that makes me out to be sick, too.

This. The 'prison code of the murderers' . . . .FFS. 'I'm a more virtuous murderer than you because I only raped and killed an adult woman' or 'I only glassed your son in a pub and he bled to death'. Can't believe some of the absurd shite on this thread. One wonders how we ever evolved a rule of laws.

To add, what to do with horrible criminals is another discussion. Some consider a punishment worse than the crime is fitting. You can extend this to daily life; if someone on their phone bumps into me on the pavement, why should I not shove them into the traffic? It sometimes happens. Isn't it just as rightous as torturing the child killer?

In an uncivilised society, yes.

I prefer the rule of laws.
 
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knocky1

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This. The 'prison code of the murderers' . . . .FFS. 'I'm a more virtuous murderer than you because I only raped and killed an adult woman' or 'I only glassed your son in a pub and he bled to death'. Can't believe some of the absurd shite on this thread. One wonders how we ever evolved a rule of laws.

Add them to the list Harry.............
 


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Add them to the list Harry.............

Nah. I can understand the emoting. Frankly if you put me in a room with this filth I'd probably finish him myself.

However.....

Many years ago I said (to some chums) that if anyone did anything to my kith and kin I'd hunt them down and kill them. But....I'd expect the state to step in and stop me, and exercise wiser justice. If we all got to determine the fate of our enemy there would be bodies piled up. I have a very long list....
 




Algernon

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Yes, I see your point to an extent. If it were my daughter, then I would probably be cheering from the rafters, but do also think that if we condone other criminals dishing out their perverted version of justice, then we are on a slippery downhill slope. We can't believe in the rule of law, and then when it suits, look the other way.

I'm OK with him being stabbed. I don't care who stabbed him. He deserved it for being such a ****.
He wasn't killed, he suffered some pain and fear and I'm glad he'll be expecting more prison "justice" in the future.

I wouldn't encourage anyone to stab him and I don't condone it but it's been done. I'm willingly happy to accept without feeling that he's been stabbed. The ****!
 






Hastings gull

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I'm OK with him being stabbed. I don't care who stabbed him. He deserved it for being such a ****.
He wasn't killed, he suffered some pain and fear and I'm glad he'll be expecting more prison "justice" in the future.

I wouldn't encourage anyone to stab him and I don't condone it but it's been done. I'm willingly happy to accept without feeling that he's been stabbed. The ****!

Your post is somewhat contradictory ( not meant as a criticism) but probably reflects what most of us feel. He is total scum and one should not shed too many tears, albeit also with the reservation that criminals themselves should not be the arbiter of justice.
 




Spiros

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Yes, I see your point to an extent. If it were my daughter, then I would probably be cheering from the rafters, but do also think that if we condone other criminals dishing out their perverted version of justice, then we are on a slippery downhill slope. We can't believe in the rule of law, and then when it suits, look the other way.
If it were my daughter then I would be counting the days until Whiting was out of jail so that I could get my revenge. In the meantime may he suffer and be always looking over his shoulder
 


Hastings gull

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If it were my daughter then I would be counting the days until Whiting was out of jail so that I could get my revenge. In the meantime may he suffer and be always looking over his shoulder

Yes, I do fully understand what you are saying and that would be quite understandable. Might well react that way myself. But the law is there for a purpose; if we all decide to simply avenge ourselves, and skip the niceties of a court appearance, society would be the undoubted loser, yourself included. Easy for me to say, when I am not emotionally involved, I fully accept.
 



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