[News] Twenty Members of a Grooming Gang Convicted

Withdean11 said:

Can you read?

I'll repeat some facts already given on this thread for you.

Firstly, TB stated that Amere Singh Dhaliwal is a Sikh, not a Muslim. Whilst this is true, what she failed to state was that he was actually a Muslim during the attacks, and converted to Sikhism after the abuse. - FACT.

Several posters (and i don't think TB mentioned this on this thread in her defence) claimed that Tommy Robinson's actions could of lead to the collapse of the trial, as was reported in the MSM. Although, the actual court transcripts show that the Judge and the Crown agreed that nothing Tommy said could have prejudiced the trial. - FACT.

TB then pointed out that the vast majority of paedophiles in this country are white. Again, she's not wrong, but as i pointed out that is clearly the case due to the vast majority of the population being white. - FACT

I then pointed out that the vast majority (84%) of grooming gangs in this country are described as 'Asian' despite Asians making up just 8% of the population. - FACT.

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Simster said:

You're wrong. Those posts are an awful way to talk to her, and I'm sorry but you find me a single example of a BG thread where he is called "a f*king idiot" or is told that he makes someone sick for something as trivial as what Thunder bolt has done here. He's certainly rounded on unreasonably but nothing as bad as this as far as I can see.

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Withdean11 said:

Can you read?

I'll repeat some facts already given on this thread for you.

Firstly, TB stated that Amere Singh Dhaliwal is a Sikh, not a Muslim. Whilst this is true, what she failed to state was that he was actually a Muslim during the attacks, and converted to Sikhism after the abuse. - FACT.

Several posters (and i don't think TB mentioned this on this thread in her defence) claimed that Tommy Robinson's actions could of lead to the collapse of the trial, as was reported in the MSM. Although, the actual court transcripts show that the Judge and the Crown agreed that nothing Tommy said could have prejudiced the trial. - FACT.

TB then pointed out that the vast majority of paedophiles in this country are white. Again, she's not wrong, but as i pointed out that is clearly the case due to the vast majority of the population being white. - FACT

I then pointed out that the vast majority (84%) of grooming gangs in this country are described as 'Asian' despite Asians making up just 8% of the population. - FACT.

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knocky1 said:

More fake news. The Greek and Roman Empires were centred in Europe.

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sydney said:

Greeks and Romans did not import slaves en masse , they enslaved the defeated armies and locals as their empires expanded , they were certainly not involved in taking slaves from the African continent .......get your time frames right before you call fake news......

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Simster said:

I've read this whole thread and I don't see Thunder bolt doing anything remotely close to defending the indefensible and she is being treated pretty shamefully by some on here.

People often only see what they want to see and this is a classic example. Some people just want an excuse to take out their anger on anyone who hasn't got their pitchforks out.

It is not down to the Muslim community to self-police against vile scum like these, any more than it is down to the black community to self-police against knife crime or whites to self-police against aggravated burglary or armed robbery.

There are a couple of other issues that are raised in my view. Firstly, I get pissed off when it becomes apparent that law enforcement treats certain sectors with kid gloves for fear of upsetting them, all the while this sort of crime is continuing more often than average. Secondly, we are talking about kids as young as eight. Where the hell are the parents then? What are they doing letting their kids fall into these people's clutches? Plenty on here were quick to point out how Madeline McCann's middle class parents were entirely to blame for that awful incident, so why don't the same rules apply to parents of working class parents then?

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cunning fergus said:

There’s the crux of it in my view, and as I have stated before, it’s not just race, if these were white girls from rich white families, something would have been done by now.

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Simster said:

I actually agree with you 100%.

Mind you - as I said earlier - if it had been rich white families, I suspect some people on internet message boards like this would have absolutely slaughtered the parents, not unreasonably wondering where the fck they had been while their 8 year old daughters were being groomed by people whose social circles they don't mix in.

But as you say, it's working class kids this time, and everybody seems to have ignored this particular detail. There's more than a distinct whiff of hypocrisy about this if you ask me.

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knocky1 said:

You were therefore wrong regarding the Chinese as they did not take slaves from Africa.

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sydney said:

Mongols and Chinese were enslaving each other 10,000 years ago whilst our distant forefathers were still eating mud and worshipping logs , ours was one of the last cultures to gain enlightenment and we were late comers to the whole slave business , you cary on son , you clearly love an argument/snipe and so do i , if you want to chose a topic and stick to it i'm all yours.

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Billy the Fish said:

Earlier you asked where the parents were - most likely they are druggies, alchies or abusers themselves. A lot of the girls were from care homes, they were targeted specifically because they were isolated and had nobody to look after them.

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sydney said:

Mongols and Chinese were enslaving each other 10,000 years ago whilst our distant forefathers were still eating mud and worshipping logs , ours was one of the last cultures to gain enlightenment and we were late comers to the whole slave business , you cary on son , you clearly love an argument/snipe and so do i , if you want to chose a topic and stick to it i'm all yours.

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Hugo Rune said:

10,000 years ago?

As far as evidence goes, you’d be hard pushed to find the existence of slavery prior to 4500 BC.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer

This is in the Middle East, not China.

Whilst you might surmise that most organised hierarchical human societies have always had slaves, we don’t actually know when this practice started in China. The Shang dynasty seems a good starting place 1600 BC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang_dynasty

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knocky1 said:

Your confusion and muddle with the history of slavery seems to be on par with your knowledge of paedophilia.

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Chicken Run said:

Rotherham child sexual abuse: Gang of seven guilty http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-45980210

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Tom Hark said:

That's odd. It appears to have happened in a shit Northern town. By the usual shit group of people. What's the chances of that eh?

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cunning fergus said:

Your points about government agencies treating “certain sectors” of the U.K. population with kid gloves is entirely fair, and a point that has mainifested intself in various governmental enquiries into previous examples of this abuse.

This is a cycle of crime that has been regularly churning out examples on a national level, and regardless of where in the country the examples are appearing, the circumstances are depressingly similar.

The government and its organs continue to be mealy mouthed about it, as do the mainstream media generally (Sarah Chapman, Anne Cryer and the Times are exceptions).

The population at large understand this, a recent series of polls run by the independent exposed the polarised views on immigration and terrorism etc. by leave and remain voters. The one poll where leave and remain voters were aligned concerned the softly softly approach to dealing with Asian grooming gangs.

An interesting difference, and from my perspective a problem entirely if the Government and media’s own making. If the problem was gangs of white taxi drivers and other such Herberts up and down the country targeting black and Asian girls to be abused and then passed around other gangs of white men, this would be explosive.

The politicians and media would be in FULL OUTRAGE mode, but they really aren’t.

If the 115 people killed in London by knifings were black lads being killed by white lads it would be the same, but they aren’t.

There’s the crux of it in my view, and as I have stated before, it’s not just race, if these were white girls from rich white families, something would have been done by now.

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