[News] "Support Gay Marriage" Cake Row

The Large One · Oct 10, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
The baker could have stopped it....

You haven't been following this at all.

The baker challenged the ruling which made him make/create/fabricate a slogan he didn't agree with. It's nothing to do with a cake, and everything to do with the law imposing social and political ideologies on someone against their will.

Knocky's Nose · Oct 10, 2018

The Large One said:
The baker challenged the ruling which made him make/create/fabricate a slogan he didn't agree with

As I said, the baker could have stopped it.

The Large One · Oct 10, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
As I said, the baker could have stopped it.

And be forced, by law, to undertake work which are against his social, political or religious principles? Good one.

Knocky's Nose · Oct 10, 2018

The Large One said:
And be forced, by law, to undertake work which are against his social, political or religious principles? Good one.

Who could force him? I've never seen a baker in a headlock in the back of his shop, hand piping a message on a cake shouting "nooooo.. this is against my wishes!" ...

Nobody would ever make it illegal to refuse to do something you don't want to do when it comes to business. If it was made law that you HAVE to do as the customer demands, then what about a man walking into a Jewish bakery demanding they make him a bacon and cheese turnover?

As I said before, and will say again, this is bullshit with sparklers on top.

The Large One · Oct 11, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
Who could force him? I've never seen a baker in a headlock in the back of his shop, hand piping a message on a cake shouting "nooooo.. this is against my wishes!" ...

Nobody would ever make it illegal to refuse to do something you don't want to do when it comes to business. If it was made law that you HAVE to do as the customer demands, then what about a man walking into a Jewish bakery demanding they make him a bacon and cheese turnover?

Like I said - you haven't been following or understanding this at all.

As for your meaningless 'whataboutery' - you've offered up a totally irrelevant example.

Knocky's Nose said:
As I said before, and will say again, this is bullshit with sparklers on top.

I agree. What you have said before, and will say again, is indeed bullshit with sparklers on top.

clapham_gull · Oct 11, 2018

Beach Hut said:
If I baked cakes and someone came into my shop and asked for a CPFC logo cake, you all know my answer, would I end up in court ?

No, not after today.

Knocky's Nose · Oct 11, 2018

The Large One said:
What you have said before, and will say again, is indeed bullshit with sparklers on top.

Your opinion, which I respect, and I won't be taking it to court :thumbsup:

beorhthelm · Oct 11, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
As I said, the baker could have stopped it.

you're saying the baker should have accepted the original verdict and fine. well done.

Knocky's Nose · Oct 11, 2018

beorhthelm said:
you're saying the baker should have accepted the original verdict and fine. well done.

No.. but yes. All I'm trying to say, in a nutshell, is that it should never have come to all this.

If someone, whoever, in this whole process, could have just sat down and worked out all the expense and thought is it really worth all this - could it have been avoided?

cunning fergus · Oct 11, 2018

Weststander said:
Like most people here I'm pleased with the final verdict.

Outside busybodies turned this into a cause celebre, which would have seen a liberty taken away.

Ridiculous sums were blown further enriching lawyers, on a battle that should not have been waged in the first place.

There is a lot of this kind of stuff about......

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018...rpiece-cakeshop-gay-wedding-cake-baker-ruling

In the US. of course it went to the highest court in the land and that’s the end.

Here in the UK our “supreme” court is not, as “supreme” as the name suggests, wait for the next round to be fought out at the ECJ...........supreme my arse!

Eeyore · Oct 11, 2018

Thunder Bolt said:
The cake wasn't for a wedding.

I know. Sorry not to be clear. I don't think this was discrimination- but would have been had they refused to make a same sex wedding cake.

Eeyore · Oct 11, 2018

Beach Hut said:
If I baked cakes and someone came into my shop and asked for a CPFC logo cake, you all know my answer, would I end up in court ?

You shouldn't. Although if you refused to serve them because they supported Palace you should.

It's actually a good example.

If you took a Palace baker to court they'd just go for administration...

beorhthelm · Oct 11, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
No.. but yes. All I'm trying to say, in a nutshell, is that it should never have come to all this.

If someone, whoever, in this whole process, could have just sat down and worked out all the expense and thought is it really worth all this - could it have been avoided?

so blame the customer for taking offense, and taking it to court, not the baker.

Frankie · Oct 11, 2018

There's been a definite Whooshing embedded into this thread somewhere

Spicy · Oct 11, 2018

Bakero said:
I have a feeling this isn't going to raise much discussion on here. You've managed to unite NSC!

First time ever.

Spicy · Oct 11, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
Who could force him? I've never seen a baker in a headlock in the back of his shop, hand piping a message on a cake shouting "nooooo.. this is against my wishes!" ...

That is actually very funny. Nooooooooooooo I hate "My Little Pony".

mejonaNO12 aka riskit · Oct 11, 2018

Taybha said:
What sort of cake ?

Beach Hut said:
Not the point it is the principle of my action to say no

Yeah....

But seriously, what sort of cake?

Smillie's People · Oct 11, 2018

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
Yeah....

But seriously, what sort of cake?

Woyal Dundee?

The Antikythera Mechanism · Oct 11, 2018

mejonaNO12 aka riskit said:
Yeah....

But seriously, what sort of cake?

Fairy cake?

Triggaaar · Oct 11, 2018

Knocky's Nose said:
Nobody would ever make it illegal to refuse to do something you don't want to do when it comes to business.

That is what happened. The local courts in Northern Ireland ruled against the bakery, saying they had to make the cake.

So you could get Nike to print a shirt saying 'We used children under 10 in sweatshops to make this shirt, so we could maximise our profits. Child slavery for the win!'

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