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[Misc] Selling CD's advice?



CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
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https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...r-kryptonite-compact-discs-vinyl-format-music

A substantial CD collection was once the mark of the true muso, with the format hailed for its superior sound quality and , of course, compactness. But many collections now sit gathering dust since the ascent of streaming, which accounts for 38% of the total global revenues for recorded music – surpassing physical formats for the first time last year.

High-street shops such as the hipster haven Urban Outfitters have made vinyl and cassettes available to a younger demographic, and the popularity of the annual Record Store Day shows that vinyl has had a full-scale revival. But while CDs make up only 30% of the total global market for recorded music, 42% of the UK population still choose CDs as their preferred format, according to a YouGov report. Of this 42%, two-thirds said they would probably still be listening to them in five years.

While CDs are often maligned for their rigid packaging, some also see this as an attractive feature. Stephen Thomas Erlewine, the senior editor at AllMusic, says: “I want to have the liner notes around. I’ve found that CD liner notes, especially for reissues in the 90s and beyond, can be the only detailed writing available for certain artists, scenes, eras and labels.”

Secondhand CDs are proving just as popular: it is the fastest-growing sales format on the music marketplace Discogs, chalking up 28% growth last year. The company’s discography specialist, Brent Greissle, says: “As someone who is always looking for new music, the overall lack of attention being paid to CDs means I can generally find a lot more of what I like without having to pay a premium.”


Though secondhand CD are an increasingly popular alternative to vinyl, their relative affordability also serves as a sign of their decline. Richard Farnell, the co-owner of Vinyl Exchange, a record shop in Manchester, says: “We still sell a lot of CDs but at much cheaper prices than five to 10 years ago. There is no evidence of a CD revival – the majority of newly opened record shops generally don’t even stock CDs.”

These shops sell vinyl instead – to DJs, to those who want to fulfil a nostalgic need, and to younger patrons trying to bolster their retro cache. None of these roles is currently filled by CDs. “CDs lack both the romance of vinyl and the endearing clunkiness of cassettes,” says Rebecca Tuhus-Dubrow, author of Personal Stereo. “They may not be as conducive to nostalgia because we may not have had the chance to miss them as much. By the same token, we may not associate them strongly with any particular bygone era.”

But that could be starting to change. “Generation Z is getting into the nostalgia zone,” Greissle says. “It’s likely that people will start reconnecting with their youth and buying the music they loved in the formats they originally owned them on. I’ve even seen some evidence of people reconnecting with this era by buying reconditioned first-gen iPods.”

Like so many others, the hipster is at the helm of these revivals. “Something that was once the dominant format fades from the zeitgeist, before someone of a hip-inclined nature rediscovers it to differentiate themselves from the rest of the crowd,” Greissle says. “To be honest, I always assumed CDs were hipster kryptonite, but this could be changing. Time will tell.”
 




BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
12,318
but the cases protect them?

They'll be alright in one of these jobbies:

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Goldstone1976

We Got Calde in!!
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Apr 30, 2013
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Herts
Generally the DACs built in to little laptops might not be very good, but the DAC in my PC is decent (separate soundcard), and not all CD players have good DACs.

I was trying to keep it relatively straightforward, but yes, some computers have decent DACs, and some (cheap) CD players don’t. However, the average CD player will have a significantly better DAC than the average computer, because the CD player has only one job, and a DAC is fundamental to that job - a computer has many jobs, and excellence of sound reproduction is very rarely close to the top of the list of user requirements for that kit, so the manufacturers cut cost in this area...
 


Goldstone1976

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Apr 30, 2013
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artist get a lot more £ from CD. outside the top household name acts, the revenue most get from streaming is naff all.

This is true... the industry will have to sort this issue as, imo, streaming will grow and grow.
 


Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
12,463
Brighton
Have been toying with getting rid of all my CDs too. I’m now buying vinyl.

But, there is something about scanning the CDs that’s different to selecting tunes via Spotify etc.


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Igzilla

Well-known member
Sep 27, 2012
1,646
Worthing
I'm in a similar situation. We have a mountain of CD's lying dusty all round the house. Funnily enough, we're moving back to vinyl - neither of us got rid of our collections (and we're so glad about that!) and we now have a reasonable, mid level turntable/amp/dab radio/cd stack. What we have done is plug the computer into the system (via the headphone socket on the laptop into the amp) and played the music I've ripped onto our NAS, and it works well (we can also access the NAS via Plex on the Xbox so we can play music in the living room too). However, we still have a stack of unplayed CD's.

My intention is to methodically rip everything to NAS and just keep the really good CD's and charity shop the rest.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,312
I think this is a misconception. Now artist's have realised they don't need a label to produce music to steaming service and are keeping their copyright, they are making money again. Streaming service royalties have actually been high, but record labels keep the majority of this then pay their artists. You always needed a record deal to produce a CD, now there is more freedom as long as artists aren't beholden to their labels in terms of revenue from streaming. Artists initial blamed Spotify for low returns, but the reality is that it was their labels keeping their dues from that.

This is only relevant from a quick google search.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/apr/24/weve-got-more-money-swirling-around-how-streaming-saved-the-music-industry

some number in there dont match other articles i've read, where the royalies to artist were in order or 1/100,000's penny per play, there they suggest its 1/1000th's. maybe things have changed. i gather that sales from apple store, sound cloud and the like are were the money is good for the smaller artist and independent labels.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,719
Eastbourne
Thanks again for the interesting replies and advice re my original question. For those that encouraged me not to sell as I would possibly feel regret, yes that is a possibility. However, like one or two other posters here, I have hardly touched my CD's for years. I agree the quality is generally worse than vinyl but superior to streaming with the exception of high quality premium streams.

This issue is not nearly as important as it once was, as in another life, I worked in the audio industry, building and testing high quality loudspeakers for Spendor Audio Systems. It took me years to become less 'fussy' about my listening, the room, the cables, the positioning of the speakers etc. But now I listen mostly in the car, on a google home, or on my decent hifi system connected to a chromecast (which again is not the best quality). I have only a small lounge which can never do justice to my speakers. With this in mind the quality of the source material becomes less and less important.

I feel a little sad about the demise of CD's as I was a very early adopter in the early 80's but nevertheless, that is life and change is here to stay.
 






Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
23,352
Sussex by the Sea
Apparently it is possible to get high resolution vinyl (with the reassurance warmth of the crackle) recorded in 24/96 or even 24/192 in digital format to play on your high end systems.

Best of both worlds, like I said, apparently.
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,797
Hove
some number in there dont match other articles i've read, where the royalies to artist were in order or 1/100,000's penny per play, there they suggest its 1/1000th's. maybe things have changed. i gather that sales from apple store, sound cloud and the like are were the money is good for the smaller artist and independent labels.

Maybe not in that article, but I think the artists that have suffered the most are those with a label that own their copyright and therefore the streaming royalty is paid to the label then the artist, after the label has taken a hefty cut itself. That has led to artists that were enjoying a tidy CD royalty suddenly having a much poorer streaming royalty. Artists were mistakenly in a lot of cases venting their anger at streaming platforms when actually their label were the ones screwing them over. What comes across is that these platforms have given those artists that want to a lot more control over their output and how they get heard.
 




Jul 7, 2003
8,624
With the advent of streaming services, apart from the odd piece of vinyl, our music collection has been made redundant. I am sure that many others like myself have found themselves in this position as I need to get rid of it.

Is there any kind of market for CD's these days? The CD's are the most part a mixture of soft rock to heavy or progressive stuff. There is little pop, but also loads of Classical music. I don't want to sell the CD's individually on ebay as that'd be very time-consuming.

I rip all of my CDs for use in the car or on the music player but I still like they physical part of looking at the inserts and also having a backup when the devices fail (and they will).

If you are looking to sell up, put up a list on here and see what you can make through here first. I'm always looking to fill gaps in my collection so your main mix of rock etc would be of interest to me.
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,719
Eastbourne
I rip all of my CDs for use in the car or on the music player but I still like they physical part of looking at the inserts and also having a backup when the devices fail (and they will).

If you are looking to sell up, put up a list on here and see what you can make through here first. I'm always looking to fill gaps in my collection so your main mix of rock etc would be of interest to me.
I realised my brother is still using CDs, so I'm giving him first dibs. If there is anything left after he's looked, I'll bear that in mind!
 


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