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[Politics] How non-Muslims engage with child abuse
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Me and my Monkey
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Oh dear, i think I'll sign off now. I've a feeling offence has been taken where none was intended.
I can't recall ever reading or hearing about a Muslim person/family ever selling their kids for abuse by another. What they do is target non-muslim kids - because their warped view on their religion tells them these people are of no value and can be abused and exploited as they see fit. Also, why go as far afield as Germany when there are numerous examples locally? There was a story just this week about a local guy that was arrested after traveling up north to 'meet' a young girl. As far as I'm aware both were white.
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StonehamPark
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The football needs to start ASAP.
NSC is an absolute sack of shite at the moment.
NSC is an absolute sack of shite at the moment.
Teachers got cracked down on there are now background checks. Scouts is a religious organisation but I will give you that. Priests of this persuation really dont show any signs of determined pious celebacy. In fact priests historically did not need to be celibate until they one too many times abused their position and they had from then on be celibate it really isnt a requirement as far as scripture goes.
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crookie
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Totally agree, must be a horrific job. And yes as for a rational debate on here concerning religion and child abuse ? Good luck with that !!
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Algernon
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"Paging Jim Horne."
studio150
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At least you haven't got a 'Wouldn't happen in Germany' response to date, as the actions by the convicted adults shouldn't be humourous.
I had read a report on another news site earlier today, and like most people I just don't understand why anyone would want to do this to a child, particularly their own, when any normal parent would just want to love and protect their own child.
I can understand what you are attempting to do in terms of balance even if most posters have not supported this approach.
The one thing no doubt we can all agree on, is that one paedophile in the world is one too many, and unfortunately there are far too many at large in the world today.
I had read a report on another news site earlier today, and like most people I just don't understand why anyone would want to do this to a child, particularly their own, when any normal parent would just want to love and protect their own child.
I can understand what you are attempting to do in terms of balance even if most posters have not supported this approach.
The one thing no doubt we can all agree on, is that one paedophile in the world is one too many, and unfortunately there are far too many at large in the world today.
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Yes.
I suspect most 'get it'. The push back has come largely from those attracted to a certain type of dog whistle. Which was anticipated
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GT49er
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No, it isn't.
No, it isn't.
Yes, so does everybody else (unless there are some paedos on NSC - I really hope not).
In this case, yes, it is the parents. Sometimes it's step-parents - or other family members (uncles are particularly suspect, I believe) - or family 'friends'. Sometimes even organised paedophile rings.........................
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GT49er
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Yes, he has stated that most people do not agree with your approach. That would appear to be actual and factual.
So, you just label those people who do not agree with your particular 'approach' as 'those attracted to a certain type of dog whistle', eh? Wow! Tad arrogant, n'est pas! I don't respond to dog whistles myself, but just out of interest, which type of dog whistle do you respond to?
I like HTW's posts and agree with them on the whole. I don't think he phrased this thread well but I do think I get what he means. However, I haven't come across anyone on NSC who doesn't understand that fundamentally the Muslim paedophile gangs are first and foremost paedophiles and secondly Muslims, or perverts who are either hiding behind Islam or genuinely believe the Qu'ran requires them to treat non muslim females as sub-human.
Either way, we cannot ignore the presence of Islam in their crimes. What people should not do, obviously is exploit the element of Islam to further an agenda based hatred and fear.
I fear I am stating the obvious and I cannot imagine their are many or any on here who would not broadly agree with what I'm trying to say?
Either way, we cannot ignore the presence of Islam in their crimes. What people should not do, obviously is exploit the element of Islam to further an agenda based hatred and fear.
I fear I am stating the obvious and I cannot imagine their are many or any on here who would not broadly agree with what I'm trying to say?
Juan Albion
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I imagine the perpetrators in Germany were atheists like most of you. They certainly cannot be practising Christians (pretending Christians possibly, which equals atheist). But most of you atheists don't assault children because you are atheists. Muslims don't assault children because they are Muslims either. People who assault children assault them because they are vile individuals with warped morals.
sydney
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possibly my final tuppence worth on the issue as the season is almost upon us and i am ,frankly tired of locking horns/copping shit from the same old people ....familiar pedophelia is disgusting , to be abused by those in a position of love and trust would be a massive marker on the lives of victims , the involvement of establishment in organised pedophile rings and attempts to cover it up are equally disgusting , if you believe Brian Harvey then the problem is very high up .....equally disgusting. The systematic targeting, grooming , drugging and repeated abuse of predominantly white girls (&boys) by Asian gangs and the insinuation that it is all part of religious doctrine to breed with or rape white women ( as spouted by the hate preachers and radical clerics) has a huge racial implication which is why , in my opinion , it is a different crime bracket altogether.
Familiar child abuse and abuse by the perverted gentry have been around for 100's of years ......the grooming gang problem is more of a 21st century issue.
Familiar child abuse and abuse by the perverted gentry have been around for 100's of years ......the grooming gang problem is more of a 21st century issue.
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More akin to Fred and Rose West than Muslims
Not an argument but an interesting point of history that Georgian and Victorian London had a significant problem with grooming gangs. Many of them in immigrant communities. It’s mentioned in a few books I’ve read.
In reading about past times you get the idea that there really aren’t many new crimes or perversions under the sun. The human brain has been fundamentally the same for millions of years and our motivations are still the same although the methods change and adapt.
Jackthelad
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Often these communities are very insular, a Pakistaini and Benglai walking around with a White girl in insular Muslim community would get a lot of curtains twitching! There was a culture of leaving your own kind alone and keeping it "out of house" this is why they often used flats out of town and so on. It's not just Muslim communities that are like this lots of communities have these problems as well going back centuries.
They are simply bad people doing bad things for personal gratification. Absolutely, those inferences will have contributed to their ability to justify their actions to themselves, but I simply can't accept that a gang of blokes who (typically) hang about drinking, gambling, drug-taking, as well as targeting local girls, are actually driven by a desire to follow Qu'ran teachings.