Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
How much money did Tom Watson take from Max Mosley 
Hardly the voice of integrity
Hardly the voice of integrity
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[Politics] Tom Watson has done it now
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midnight_rendezvous
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So you won’t vote for him because he wouldn’t hypothetically push a button ushering in a nuclear holocaust?
So, it’s all about that big red button in some never going to happen scenario over; ending the Tory rail privatisation farce? Binning austerity? A national investment bank? Saving the NHS? A National Education Service: free education from cradle to grave? A sensible industrial strategy? Ending the systematic Tory abuse of disabled people?
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
Shame really, these are sideshows to the fact that we need a change of government and they won't actually be as bad as the right's 'project fear' (to borrow a phrase) is making out.
Equally, no-doubt there are anti-semitic elements in the Labour party but there is also a groundswell of islamophobia in the Tory party. One of these things is acceptable to the mainstream press and one isn't, of curse, but I think thats where the difference ends.
Equally, no-doubt there are anti-semitic elements in the Labour party but there is also a groundswell of islamophobia in the Tory party. One of these things is acceptable to the mainstream press and one isn't, of curse, but I think thats where the difference ends.
melias shoes
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- Oct 14, 2010
- 4,830
Agree with this except I will never vote labour again. I was a voter of them then they got elected. Never again for me.
DumLum
Well-known member
So you won’t vote for him because he wouldn’t hypothetically push a button ushering in a nuclear holocaust?
Everything you mention is irrelevant if we are all dead.
The nuclear deterrent has worked the last 60 years so I don't want to lose it. Name a country with nuclear weapons that has been invaded? I want to see the world living in peace just like Corbyn but have the knowledge not to spend billions on weapons and then tell your enemies "don't worry we won't use them".
Lush
Mods' Pet
If Labour are genuinely ‘for the many not the few’ then that’s good enough for me. Corporate and individual greed at the expense of social responsibility is the biggest problem we face. Everything else is a side-show.
Bob'n'weave
Well-known member
This.
Media driven sensationalist political narratives should not determine the fate of our government. Seeing politicians frenzied reactions to this slant is demeaning, to them and us.
How much money did Tom Watson take from Max Mosley
The Labour Party took the money on Tom Watson's behalf, as that is the only route that such donations can take and from the small amount of this matter I know, Moseley's support of Watson is largely due to their common interest in press regulation - something I thought many on the left were keen on given the supposed pro-Tory bias that exists, amongst other reasons.
Regardless this "whatabouterry" that you are engaging in, typifies many from your side of the political spectrum who seem completely unable to accept there may be a problem within the Labour Party and are prepared to have the big conversation about that. Fortunately there is a growing collection of people within the party who are prepared to have that discussion and are demonstrating some determination to make improvements where there is scope to do so.
That might be true but good luck convincing the Jewish community.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Malaya
Kenya
Jebel Akhdar
Cyprus
Suez
Dhofar
Aden
Nigeria
Northern Ireland
Falklands
Gulf 1
Bosnia
Gulf 2
Kosovo
Sierra Leone
Afghanistan
We had nuclear weapons for all these bunfights.
The idea that someone would want to invade a radioactive wasteland of their own making is preposterous.
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
Sorry,you've totally lost me.Which of those countries invaded Great Britain?
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
I do think Jezza is getting a bad press atm,but I thought you would all fight his corner.He looked great at Pride.
DumLum
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Ridiculous.
Iggle Piggle
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- Sep 3, 2010
- 5,336
Jezza has got a better idea. Because cancelling Trident would cut a load of union jobs, How about we build a nuclear sub without nuclear weapons? Couldn't make it up.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-35337432
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
That's not exactly difficult, is it.
They were all conflicts in which Britain went to war, had nuclear weapons and they were of no use.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Insightful
Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
You really are as thick as pig mess.The question asked was how many countries with nuclear weapons had been invaded and you come out with most of the conflicts Great Britain has been involved in since WW2.
midnight_rendezvous
Well-known member
How is it irrelevant? Those are all everyday things that would improve the lives of millions in this country. Throwing that all away for some hypothetical event that will never happen is ridiculous. Nuclear weapons didn’t stop 9/11 nor the terrorist attacks in London so how are they are deterrent? It’s a complete waste of money. Corbyn’s goal of nuclear disarmament is a far more worth while goal that spending billions on a glorified dick measuring competition.
HantsSeagull
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Two Professors
Two Mad Professors
So we get rid of nuclear weapons and Iran,Pakistan,North Korea,Israel,etc will all follow suit?
