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[Cricket] England vs India First Test - Edgbaston











crodonilson

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About time Daw turned up, need a big innings from him.
 




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What I don't understand with English players is they don't appear to be coached about foot movement when playing spin. Watch other nations they smother the spin by getting forwards. English batsman tend to only half move forwards.

I suppose it's due to the fact we have spinners in this country that should be reclassified as slow bowlers as they rarely spin/turn the ball.
 


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What I don't understand with English players is they don't appear to be coached about foot movement when playing spin. Watch other nations they smother the spin by getting forwards. English batsman tend to only half move forwards.

(this will sound patronizing, so apologies in advance...) but:

That analysis is far too simplistic, and gives way too little credit to Ashwin, who is a very fine bowler, at the top of his game. Jennings will have known all about 'getting out to' the pitch of the ball, to counter any turn. He will of course have been coached to do so, all his career. He'll have seen that delivery leave Ashwin's hand, judged where he thought it was going to pitch - and moved into where he assessed would be the right position.

That Ashwin has managed to put a good amount of dip on the delivery, means that it pitches shorter than Jennings thought - thus he doesn't get there- it turns sharply, and bounces, and he's left just hoping it beats his bat. It's another good ball. :shrug:
 


LlcoolJ

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(this will sound patronizing, so apologies in advance...) but:

That analysis is far too simplistic, and gives way too little credit to Ashwin, who is a very fine bowler, at the top of his game. Jennings will have known all about 'getting out to' the pitch of the ball, to counter any turn. He will of course have been coached to do so, all his career. He'll have seen that delivery leave Ashwin's hand, judged where he thought it was going to pitch - and moved into where he assessed would be the right position.

That Ashwin has managed to put a good amount of dip on the delivery, means that it pitches shorter than Jennings thought - thus he doesn't get there- it turns sharply, and bounces, and he's left just hoping it beats his bat. It's another good ball. :shrug:
It's true. People seem to be forgetting that Ashwin is actually very good at bowling.
 












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(this will sound patronizing, so apologies in advance...) but:

That analysis is far too simplistic, and gives way too little credit to Ashwin, who is a very fine bowler, at the top of his game. Jennings will have known all about 'getting out to' the pitch of the ball, to counter any turn. He will of course have been coached to do so, all his career. He'll have seen that delivery leave Ashwin's hand, judged where he thought it was going to pitch - and moved into where he assessed would be the right position.

That Ashwin has managed to put a good amount of dip on the delivery, means that it pitches shorter than Jennings thought - thus he doesn't get there- it turns sharply, and bounces, and he's left just hoping it beats his bat. It's another good ball. :shrug:

Difficult watching to fully appreciate the variation in flight, and in particular the amount of dip bowlers like Ashwin get - and the ball is coming at a pace any village cricketer would think was a lively medium rather than the pies the old spinner Tubby McTubface lobs up on your village green on a Sunday afternoon. Swann has already said this morning he'd love to be bowling on this 'square turner'
 


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Ashwin's going to bag 7 wickets and roll us over for under 200.
 


Rodney Thomas

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(this will sound patronizing, so apologies in advance...) but:

That analysis is far too simplistic, and gives way too little credit to Ashwin, who is a very fine bowler, at the top of his game. Jennings will have known all about 'getting out to' the pitch of the ball, to counter any turn. He will of course have been coached to do so, all his career. He'll have seen that delivery leave Ashwin's hand, judged where he thought it was going to pitch - and moved into where he assessed would be the right position.

That Ashwin has managed to put a good amount of dip on the delivery, means that it pitches shorter than Jennings thought - thus he doesn't get there- it turns sharply, and bounces, and he's left just hoping it beats his bat. It's another good ball. :shrug:

He's also bowling with a new ball which means he's getting a lot more bounce than usual, making him even harder to play if he gets one to turn.
 
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Farehamseagull

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What I don't understand with English players is they don't appear to be coached about foot movement when playing spin. Watch other nations they smother the spin by getting forwards. English batsman tend to only half move forwards.

I suppose it's due to the fact we have spinners in this country that should be reclassified as slow bowlers as they rarely spin/turn the ball.

Jennings was educated/coached in South Africa so can't label that at him.
 











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