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    I completely disagree with this. I'd say that reaching the WC finals with only one really world class player demonstrates the exact opposite - Croatia disguise the lack of outstanding talent simply by being a very good team

    As for the final, France have clearly got the more talented players but I fancy Croatia to win. A team that has gone behind three times in the knockout stages and has still reached the final has got a fair degree of guts and determination - they'll be no pushovers
    We cut them open enough to win the game last night and made the wrong decision or fluffed our lines

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      Where have I said Kane was blameless?
      There were two defining moments in this game. One was a very tired John Stones switching off momentarily in the 118th minute. The other was the Tottenham striker who failed to convert a very presentable chance when he could in any case have laid on Sterling with a tap-in.

      You have decided to comment on Stones, when the simple fact is that Kane is more culpable. His mistake came when he wasn't tired. And had he not done that, Stones' mistake would never have actually happened.

      Not that any of us are complaining about Kane at all - maybe he too needs a move to a big club to develop further?
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      There were two defining moments in this game. One was a very tired John Stones switching off momentarily in the 118th minute. The other was the Tottenham striker who failed to convert a very presentable chance when he could in any case have laid on Sterling with a tap-in.

      You have decided to comment on Stones, when the simple fact is that Kane is more culpable. His mistake came when he wasn't tired. And had he not done that, Stones' mistake would never have actually happened.

      Not that any of us are complaining about Kane at all - maybe he too needs a move to a big club to develop further?


      Well, if Walker had not lost his man at the back post or young had stopped the cross in Stones mistake would never have happened.

      Or Lingard hit the target from 17 yards with a clear shot

      Also commented about the missed chances earlier in the thread
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      My wife, who is not a football fan, summed the game up in the car incredibly accurately I feel: it seemed like Croatia knew we would come racing out of the starting blocks (a la Tunisia, Panama, Colombia etc.) and realised as long as they didn't go in 2 or 3 goals down at the break, we would eventually tire and they would come into their own. Risky strategy but eventually paid off when we couldn't build on our lead and Sterling and Kane tired. Croatia must have taken great heart from their last two games and knew their players could go the distance physically if they paced themselves.

      Have no problem whatsoever with our gameplan though. Played to our strengths (starting quick), just couldn't see it over the line. Very proud of them all, every single one of them heroes.
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      My wife, who is not a football fan, summed the game up in the car incredibly accurately I feel: it seemed like Croatia knew we would come racing out of the starting blocks (a la Tunisia, Panama, Colombia etc.) and realised as long as they didn't go in 2 or 3 goals down at the break, we would eventually tire and they would come into their own. Risky strategy but eventually paid off when we couldn't build on our lead and Sterling and Kane tired. Croatia must have taken great heart from their last two games and knew their players could go the distance physically if they paced themselves.

      Have no problem whatsoever with our gameplan though. Played to our strengths (starting quick), just couldn't see it over the line. Very proud of them all, every single one of them heroes.
      Luca Modric commenting that the English pundits underestimated Croatia - they will get tired - and used the expression "lack of respect. I think he would like your wife.

      And I think he is right. Croatia were always going to be difficult to beat? And have been for ages.
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      Lol Kane truly awful against Sweden?

      I guess that is a back handed compliment is that is how highly you rate him.
      OK let me choose different words, thought he was extremely poor.
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      England lacked any guile and composure on the ball. When it was 1-1, we needed to bring someone on who could show some calmness and quality. Unfortunately there wasn't single player in the selected squad who could offer this. Southgate's biggest mistake was not bringing Wilshere to the WC. The only Englishman who could offer this but instead GS brings on Eric Average Dier who made absolutely no influence on the game. Wilshere would've been ideal when England started panicking and hoofing it anywhere.

      It became the Southgate (ex England u21 manager) show when he selected his squad of players based on their u21 involvement rather than their technical ability. Southgate has never been a successful manager. You can see why.
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      England lacked any guile and composure on the ball. When it was 1-1, we needed to bring someone on who could show some calmness and quality. Unfortunately there wasn't single player in the selected squad who could offer this. Southgate's biggest mistake was not bringing Wilshere to the WC. The only Englishman who could offer this but instead GS brings on Eric Average Dier who made absolutely no influence on the game. Wilshere would've been ideal when England started panicking and hoofing it anywhere.

      It became the Southgate (ex England u21 manager) show when he selected his squad of players based on their u21 involvement rather than their technical ability. Southgate has never been a successful manager. You can see why.
      I was surprised Loftus-Road-Cheek didn't get a run out - he would have given the midfield some forward impetus.
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      England lacked any guile and composure on the ball. When it was 1-1, we needed to bring someone on who could show some calmness and quality. Unfortunately there wasn't single player in the selected squad who could offer this. Southgate's biggest mistake was not bringing Wilshere to the WC. The only Englishman who could offer this but instead GS brings on Eric Average Dier who made absolutely no influence on the game. Wilshere would've been ideal when England started panicking and hoofing it anywhere.

      It became the Southgate (ex England u21 manager) show when he selected his squad of players based on their u21 involvement rather than their technical ability. Southgate has never been a successful manager. You can see why.
      Wilshire wasn't picked because he's made of Weetabix and he's a total knob. The reconnection with the fans and the togetherness of the squad would have been put at risk by taking a dickhead as part of it. Well done Southgate.
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      It became the Southgate (ex England u21 manager) show when he selected his squad of players based on their u21 involvement rather than their technical ability. Southgate has never been a successful manager. You can see why.
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