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    The Albion should stop calling them loyalty points, would take a lot of emotion out of it. It’s got bugger all to do with loyalty or we’d not see 8 year old kids at away games. Just call them points and also do away with bronze silver etc. Any ‘class’ nouns in a sport like football is just plain stupid. It’s always going to cause arguments. Just call them ‘points’. You’ve either got enough or you haven’t. You’re either likely to get a ticket or won’t. It’s a constantly changing population and if you’re in it for the long haul you will see some games both Home and Away. Eventually. Whether now or in 30years time. Thems the dice and you roll with em. Football. It’s just how it is. Expect nothing and you’ll never be disappointed!
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      Hi Mate, yes and from that pot their names are drawn out on a ballot basis. This will always be not the solution but the fairest way for me.
      But are these fans in the loyalty pot all season ticket holders ?

      If so.. then still rewarding the people who fund the club, fans going away don’t actually give the club any money.
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      Hi Mate, yes and from that pot their names are drawn out on a ballot basis. This will always be not the solution but the fairest way for me.
      That loyalty ballot pot is STHs who have applied for every away ticket for the last 17 years – and they only have an 85% chance of getting a ticket!
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      But are these fans in the loyalty pot all season ticket holders ?

      If so.. then still rewarding the people who fund the club, fans going away don’t actually give the club any money.
      No they are not, its the luck of the draw
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      No they are not, its the luck of the draw
      Yes they are

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      But are these fans in the loyalty pot all season ticket holders ?

      If so.. then still rewarding the people who fund the club, fans going away don’t actually give the club any money.
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      That loyalty ballot pot is STHs who have applied for every away ticket for the last 17 years – and they only have an 85% chance of getting a ticket!
      Here we go, this is from a Manc friend, as you can see at the end, even people on the lowest tier have a chance to get a ticket, because its a ballot, however small they still get a chance, our lowest tier fans have next to no chance EVER !!

      Non season ticket holders can apply but the ballot is weighted towards loyalty.
      I can’t remember the exact percentages but it’s something like:
      30% to season ticket holders who apply for and attend away games. Once you’re in this 30% you basically never drop out.
      40% to season ticket holders who apply for every away game even if they’re not successful (that’s me)
      10% to Executive Club members at Old Trafford
      20% to members, so basically everyone else, as long as you’re a member which is only about £25 per season.
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      Here we go, this is from a Manc friend, as you can see at the end, even people on the lowest tier have a chance to get a ticket, because its a ballot, however small they still get a chance, our lowest tier fans have next to no chance EVER !!

      Non season ticket holders can apply but the ballot is weighted towards loyalty.
      I can’t remember the exact percentages but it’s something like:
      30% to season ticket holders who apply for and attend away games. Once you’re in this 30% you basically never drop out.
      40% to season ticket holders who apply for every away game even if they’re not successful (that’s me)
      10% to Executive Club members at Old Trafford
      20% to members, so basically everyone else, as long as you’re a member which is only about £25 per season.
      Firstly ...... not what the link says.

      Secondly and more importantly, not EVERY away game sold out last season... so everyone does have a chance
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      Firstly ...... not what the link says.

      Secondly and more importantly, not EVERY away game sold out last season... so everyone does have a chance
      They have no chance with the local & London games. As an example what chance does a bronze member who cant be a season ticket holder because of their personal circumstance, cant get to many away games because of their personal circumstance who has supported the club for 50 years get a ticket for say Bournemouth. At least with their policy the above member has a better chance than our person.
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      They have no chance with the local & London games. As an example what chance does a bronze member who cant be a season ticket holder because of their personal circumstance, cant get to many away games because of their personal circumstance who has supported the club for 50 years get a ticket for say Bournemouth. At least with their policy the above member has a better chance than our person.
      So your saying someone who can’t go to many games and doesn’t travel away should have as much chance as say someone who goes to every game home and away ?

      The Man Utd one does have to be a season ticket holder for a minimum of 3 years and buy every home Cup game ticket BEFORE you can apply for an away ticket.

      There is a pot of loyal SEASON TICKET HOLDERS who have applied for every away game since 2001, 85% of the tickets are pulled from this pot. The remaining 15% go to a ballot of season ticket holders who have applied.


      Can I buy tickets for Manchester United away games?
      Due to the high demand, away tickets are only sold to season ticket holders who have purchased all cup tickets and to executive club members.

      New season ticket holders must have had their season ticket for three seasons before they can apply.

      There is a ‘loyalty pot’ consisting of fans who have applied for every away game since the 2001-02 season. They are said to have around an 85 percent chance of securing tickets.

      The remainder of the allocation is put to a ballot with applications, which are always usually over subscribed, taken usually around a month before games.
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      So your saying someone who can’t go to many games and doesn’t travel away should have as much chance as say someone who goes to every game home and away ?

      The Man Utd one does have to be a season ticket holder for a minimum of 3 years and buy every home Cup game ticket BEFORE you can apply for an away ticket.

      There is a pot of loyal SEASON TICKET HOLDERS who have applied for every away game since 2001, 85% of the tickets are pulled from this pot. The remaining 15% go to a ballot of season ticket holders who have applied.


      Can I buy tickets for Manchester United away games?
      Due to the high demand, away tickets are only sold to season ticket holders who have purchased all cup tickets and to executive club members.

      New season ticket holders must have had their season ticket for three seasons before they can apply.

      There is a ‘loyalty pot’ consisting of fans who have applied for every away game since the 2001-02 season. They are said to have around an 85 percent chance of securing tickets.

      The remainder of the allocation is put to a ballot with applications, which are always usually over subscribed, taken usually around a month before games.
      No I am not saying that, what I am saying is, there were plenty of "loyal" fans who travelled across the country during the 70's, 80's and 90's. long long before the theatre of dreams was built, some of us have done more miles watching the Albion than a majority of the new "loyal" fans, just because they now cant go to as many matches because of circumstance, does not mean they have not put in the hard miles years before and are suddenly not loyal.

      As an example:
      lets say during the 80's fan "A" when to nearly every home and away game for 7 years.
      Fan "B" has gone to nearly every home and away game for the last 7 years

      Obviously fan "A" is now older and life's circumstances mean they cant now attend as many games over the last 7 years and fab "B" Although they are able to go to say 6 £52 games at home and that will generate £312 in ticket sales, which is nearly as much as a season ticket.

      Who then is more loyal? For me they are both the same.
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