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    forget the VAR, how the hell are the ref and linesmen missing them? and not just these incidents, some of the physical contact is outraguous. but then freekicks are given for a glancing touch to an trailing leg. seems if you try to tackle and miss, freekick, man handle the player off the ball, ah well.
    Come the knock-outs - VAR will **** England so hard that the ‘hand of god’, various penalty shoots-outs & ‘Lampard’s 1m over the line’ will pale into insignificance and be lost in the mists of time. All we’re be talking about will be this upcoming VAR controversy for decades. Mark my words. VAR is coming for us!
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      Come the knock-outs - VAR will **** England so hard that the ‘hand of god’, various penalty shoots-outs & ‘Lampard’s 1m over the line’ will pale into insignificance and be lost in the mists of time. All we’re be talking about will be this upcoming VAR controversy for decades. Mark my words. VAR is coming for us!
      Was coming here to post exactly this. You know full well a slight shirt tug from one of ours will result in a penalty and a red card, yet all in wrestling has been allowed repeatedly this World Cup.
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      Come the knock-outs - VAR will **** England so hard that the ‘hand of god’, various penalty shoots-outs & ‘Lampard’s 1m over the line’ will pale into insignificance and be lost in the mists of time. All we’re be talking about will be this upcoming VAR controversy for decades. Mark my words. VAR is coming for us!
      I'm gut wrenchingly sure that you're right. Thing is though, everyone blaming VAR seems to be forgetting that in the end, it's still a decision by a ref (or refs).

      It's never going to be a magic bullet and that decision on the double wrestling take down just proves that refs still get things totally wrong. It's not having more views/opinions of an incident that's the problem, it's how the views are seen and how the opinions are decided.

      Basically we'll still get ****ed over however many refs are looking at it.
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      More rubbish from VAR.

      Rather the ref just makes mistakes than this.

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      That was a lot worse than either of the Kane appeals. Piss poor from VAR
      If there wasn't VAR, the decision would have been the same as it was.

      Yes VAR should have corrected the mistake, but VAR didn't cause the mistake, and indeed the only way we stand a chance of eliminating such mistakes is with VAR.
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      Funny how the most unappealing games are often the best. Great game I thought.
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      If there wasn't VAR, the decision would have been the same as it was.

      Yes VAR should have corrected the mistake, but VAR didn't cause the mistake, and indeed the only way we stand a chance of eliminating such mistakes is with VAR.
      Or in the back of his mind is the ref thinking I am not sure, let's see what VAR picks up....

      Maybe calls by the ref would be different, if not in this case, then others.

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      Or in the back of his mind is the ref thinking I am not sure, let's see what VAR picks up....

      Maybe calls by the ref would be different, if not in this case, then others.
      Yes that's possible, but it shouldn't be the case, as they're told to make the decisions as they see fit. If he gave the penalty, but was wrong, VAR could fix that, so no need for him to think it's a penalty, but ignore it. Just like the when the ref gave a penalty when Neymar went down in the box - then he used VAR to overturn it.
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      If there wasn't VAR, the decision would have been the same as it was.

      Yes VAR should have corrected the mistake, but VAR didn't cause the mistake, and indeed the only way we stand a chance of eliminating such mistakes is with VAR.
      I think we like mistakes
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      Yes that's possible, but it shouldn't be the case, as they're told to make the decisions as they see fit. If he gave the penalty, but was wrong, VAR could fix that, so no need for him to think it's a penalty, but ignore it. Just like the when the ref gave a penalty when Neymar went down in the box - then he used VAR to overturn it.
      We've also got linesmen told not to raise their flag for offside unless they are sure....leave it to VAR

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      I think we like mistakes
      The two main reasons I remember people being against VAR before it arrived were:
      1) It will slow the game down, with stopping and starting.
      2) It will remove the debating decisions in the pub.

      Well 1 hasn't happened, and it looks like there's still plenty to debate, as some decisions are marginal. I love it.

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      We've also got linesmen told not to raise their flag for offside unless they are sure....leave it to VAR
      Slightly different to that I think - they shouldn't immediately raise their flag unless sure, but if a goal is then scored, they can then raise their flag even if not sure - so yes, it will get checked by VAR, but what they've avoided is incorrectly raising their flag and stopping play before the ball crosses the line. The perfect option IMO.
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